hey do you know the grape nuts were invented to stop men from frosting their own flakes from Appling their own Jacks from sugaring their own smacks I hate this place get me out of here Welcome to Hell this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah I put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense a hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich what Welcome to our podcast a hot dog is a sandwich the show we break down the world’s biggest food debates I’m your host josher and I’m your host Nicole and I and today Nicole we are talking about whether or not serial can temper masturbatory urges because that is at least mbat masturbatory you have planetary observatories you have planetary masturbator a place where you just go to oh I know what that means now there is can cial stop you from doing that yeah I don’t think anything can stop you from doing that only uh the power of God unless you don’t have hands um no well there is a pervasive myth out there that you see every once in a while and we’ve vaguely touched on it but I wanted to go into the shocking origin stories of pretty much every major serial in America and how it actually started because you get some meme that somebody sends us they’ll be like did you know the cornflakes for invented to stop people from masturbating and it’s a vast vast oversimplification and you got to think the amount of religiosity in America back when these flakes were invented which was in the late 1800s um John Harvey what Quakers around at that time no so the Quakers did the O So Quakers were around at the time Quakers are around at this time I was at a wedding in Jersey and I went by a Quaker Church no way Quakers are like prevalent in the US yeah I don’t think they’re like super popular but they don’t have like the mega church Justin bber ain’t going to worship at a Quaker church but yeah there’s still a fair amount of Quakers were they called Quakers because their bodies used to shake when they would pray yeah no actually that’s that’s the reason uh Quakers were also early leaders in the abolition movement fourth grade history honestly Quakers seems super chill I got some Quaker cousins out in eastern PA um big Quaker Haven out there but no I was like Quaker O Cereal wasn’t sure if there was a it’s a vast oversimplification of what the deal was and it really all stems to Sylvester Graham and Graham flower the inventor of the graham cracker love graham crackers love graham crackers they haven’t stopped me from touching myself though no me neither right which is crazy and I ate a lot of gram crackers and I do a lot of you know e cereal as well I eat a lot of graham crackers and I actually like them when they’re a little bit stale same fun fact about me that is a fun fact um what make what what do you think makes a gram cracker a gram cracker um the fact that it’s got It’s like in a sheet and it has holes in it and it’s a little bit sweet and it’s a little bit soft what’s the what’s the color of a gram cracker Brown it’s brown right so the whole boring what brown is boring no what what do you want what do you want what color do you want it to be I don’t know maybe the colors make the orangg what color is a normal cracker also Brown like tan right like Light tan graham crackers are Browner than a normal cracker because of cinnamon no yes because of Graham flour oh that’s what I was getting at God that took a long time we’re so smooth at transition we are so in all right so GRL um this is going somewhere this is going somewhere because Graham flower Sylvester Graham uh born in the late 1700s and he invents gr flower in the 1830s uh his mother and father both suffered from mental illness and um alcoholism and so he joined the temperance movement he bounced around from like relativ house to relatives house he worked in a Tavern and he saw the horrors of in Temperance sorry what is Graham flower what is Graham from what do you mean like what is Graham flow oh so Graham flour yeah is wheat but it’s effectively whole wheat flour right but this was at a time when almost all the flower coming out there’s a very strange thing that happened with the Industrial Revolution where we took all all of the Earth’s natural products right yes and we used to grind whole wheat flour into bread and all bread was whole wheat bread for like quite a long time in human history because we were like this is the plant you grind it naturally yeah but then you know in uh I believe it was God the Middle Ages in Europe um they would you know grind the flow and then the term flow literally comes from like Flora flowering yeah like flower wheat flow used to be spelled f l o w e r it used to be the same really I had idea because it is effectively they’re calling it The Flower which back then it meant like the choicest part it meant like the filet they’re like oh this is the flow of the wheat like this is the good stuff we’ve taken the germ sticks and Stems out yeah we’ve No Seeds no stems no sticks that real powdery powdery ooee put it in your cakes you know what I mean um but they took the The Germ and the chaff and what is it like the endosperm off of the wheat and they refined it and that became a status symbol where people were like this is wow great we have this lovely refined white bread Industrial Revolution happens people are all now crowding into cities and factories are eating bun of refined white flow they’re getting drunk all the time uh Sylvester Graham sees this happening and there’s of course tuberculosis and chalera outbreaks constantly because people are crowded and sanitation’s not that good and so there were a bunch of ways that people tried to qualm these problems right and you know modern medicine was sort of in its swing but still 200 years behind where we are today did they ever think of like just stopping stopping what drinking yeah but that’s tough and you need alcohol to get you through the day but also back then you know water wasn’t as pable so you you were drinking ale all the time this is such a good history lesson um but no but there there was a massive uh you know movement to get people to stop from drinking that’s the temperance movement which Sylvester Graham joins and he then uh studied um under a theologist who was sort of on The Cutting Edge of vegetarianism at the time people like hey to stopa you need to drink a bunch of P wine and eat meat cuz that makes you strong and then people were like hey I don’t know maybe let’s consider a vegetable and some water uh but anyways it’s sort of like the modern history of Health Food movements and that’s where almost all cereal comes from so Grand flow is invented and then in the 1860s you get James Caleb Jackson who was kind of part of that um wave wave uh he invents granula he believed that illness was all rooted in the stomach and so he was like yo vegetarianism is very Godly and good and seems to upset your stomach less so he had a uh sanitarium uh which was like a people would go to sanitariums to cure tuberculosis cuz like everyone had tuberculosis back then yeah so he has a sanitarium he starts feeding the cereal he calls it granula eventually turns into granola and so that tends to be the origin of pretty much every breakfast cereal wild but then you get into the weirder things as time goes on mhm so then you get into the Battle Creek sanitarium of John Harvey Kellogg Kellog people you know L yogurt enas to try and cure the yogurt Guy this is the yogurt guy oh my God this guy so then from Kellog you got CW post who was an employee he tried to make a caffeine and coffee free alternative drink to the morning and he tried to brew it through wheat clusters and then he was like o this tastes like crap but then he ate some of them wheat clusters and he was like these are pretty good and he called them grape nuts are you telling me grape nuts were made through filtering coffee through them that was the original so if you look at like three major cereals of Kelloggs which started with cornflakes post which started with grape nuts and again all these Place have expanded their lines like crazy and then the other really big player in this around that time was cheex oh shoot I love cheex I love cheex too and then you get cheex mix which oh my God the Bold party mix has the highest amount of MSG I swear to God of any snack food and it is delicious all MSG and white pepper um but cheex kind of takes the religious extremism of this movement and and again this was popular at the time but not exactly mainstream not like a majority of people were you know in the temperance movement and doing this kind of stuff and were people people weren’t eating breakfast cereal at like a large rate were they no this was all very Niche health food stuff at the time and I kind of want to get into this later of trying to figure out what the modern equivalent is because history is a circle right when but like what would the average American eat for breakfast GRL well so there was like a big um I mean people just ate like bread and cheese all the time but around this time as well early 1900s when this is going on there’s sort of this big PR campaign from uh the pork board to get people to eat bacon cuz they’re like hey these vegetarian religious yahoos want you to eat cereal we don’t like that we got to get back to eating meat for breakfast and so they got a bunch of doctors to say that factory workers especially which a lot of people going from Farm to Factory at that point they were like workers especially you need healthy protein in your diet nothing’s health ithier than bacon um so that was a swing after that so the vegetarians were so like they were strong enough to alert the pork board like hey there’s something going on we got to really work hard to get them in yeah and it’s one of the strongest PR campaigns of all time and there’s a bunch of crazy stuff about literally just paying doctors to write endorsements for bacon as part of a healthy breakfast and then you know fast forward 100 years and like you know my dad’s cooking pancakes and bacon fat sure on a Sunday morning sure um but the crazy story around this is cheex so cheex again all this stuff is sprung off of this illness and illness and intemperance are caused by the stomach the things you eat affect the way you think okay and so cheex was originally part of the Ralston checks company it was actually Ralston Purina dog food Purina dog food and their and their logo is a checkerboard checkerboard check cereal checkerboard logo um but the ralon nights were in incredibly deranged um very racist white supremacist religious cult that believed if you ate such a pure and sound diet that you could be so pure of Mind only white people though that you could achieve mind control so oh that’s the origin of most breakfast cere wa wait wait why is cereal why are cereal creators so crazy because a lot of this so I I the question I really want to answer is what is the modern day equivalent and I think we can get to some things but they’re crazy because it’s that was almost all Health Food wackos who were ambitious enough to be able to make big waves and get their product to Market but they tend to have crazy beliefs but like mind control due to what you eat that’s a little bit out there even like the 1920s or whenever it came out 100% it’s out there um so yeah that that is the origin of most breakfast cereals but Nicole you know what Cal doesn’t have a paranormally racist origin story to it I can only guess is it mish mash mish mash hey good news mythical came out with its own brand cereal it’s called mish mash and it comes in two flavors we have was it peanut butter honey sandwich that’s right and sweet Mac and Malo I the peanut butter honey sandwich is genuinely one of my favorite cereals ever eaten it’s pretty dang good speaking of cereal being a health food originally uh cereal eventually took a complete 180 turn you had cereals like Captain Crunch which was actually the first product to Pioneer spraying a thin layer of oil genius on it to get sweetener to stick to it STI to it yeah yeah gen which is really great um but Lucky Charms first to have marshmallows in it but then came mish mash and it’s actually it’s not too sweet but it is still sweet enough to where you feel like you’re eating a little treat but you actually like taste the wheat in it and I just really like it and it’s really great and you should buy it you go to eat Mish mash.com and you can buy it direct to your mouth holes I can’t wait to see what people are going to say when they eat it I think it’ be really stoked I think uh the sweet the mac and Malo I that’s it’s a macaroni shaped cereal the first of its kind the first of its kind that that we know probably right that was such a good like ad Josh thank you so much it was natural and then Rett link you and I are going to start our own sort of religious cult based off of nutritional properties of that I really don’t want to but if there were to be a modernday strange religious cult around health food like there was with I mean cereal this was going on for like 50 plus years what do you think it would be aan $20 smoothies but but what’s actually in the $20 smothies like what does it promise I want you to get into like to look well it’s endorsed by Haley Bieber so you’re going to look like Bieber but like what is the active ingredient is it collagen is that the thing it’s like collagen strawberry like a hyaluronic acid she has like a skincare line called Road and what do all these things do for you they just make you look attractive I guess not I mean they don’t make you look attractive like collagen you know helps with with elasticity in your skin what why why do you want your skin to be elastic CUA what do you mean youth youth to which makes you look more good you see what I’m saying like it’s all just it’s it’s meant to make you look hotter the smoothies trying to make you look hotter yeah it is and I mean that’s a pretty powerful way to start a call there’s a big practice in um The Cult World they call was it called like honey potting where love bombing love bombing is it love bombing well they take like a really attractive that’s honey a really attractive youthful person I believe children of God were ones that that did this a lot um and they would just like have them stand on the side of the road and they just be like hey sailor you want to get in this van they’d be like sure do honey and then they would join the cult so that would be a powerful one with haly Bieber’s uh smoothie I think that’s the only equivalent I can think of when it comes to like intense I don’t know just like intense belief systems around that but that belief system is all rooted in wanting to be hot yeah but these cereals weren’t about being hot because hotness wasn’t Quantified like that no this I mean this cereal was like a cereal was not this cereal not mish mash also about the the need to temper masturbatory urges it’s like that was like why is that so important 100 of it and also all religious institutions back there were telling you to stop masturbating so anything was related to religion was somehow involved in that but that was not the original aim the original aim was to literally like cure all of society’s ills but did they really think that breakfast cereal was the answer to that I mean they thought that diet was right so not breakfast cereal but they thought diet sense you are what you eat I get that but there comes a time where you’re like okay maybe medicine might be useful here yeah I mean this is you know 1830s when this starts and so you didn’t exactly have I mean in in the 1910s they were just putting heroin and cough syrup CU like this is all we know about medicine right now we can we can figure that out later um my thing that I’m fascinated by and that nobody seems to quite understand and people are making really bold claims about it gut health oh well yeah well Haley Bieber smoothie also has gut healthy course do so do all these like the the cereals they all had there was like oh this is a whole wheat flower and Sylvester Graham in 1830 was just like hey this will maybe not lead you to drink alcohol if you live a healthy life and you feel good you’re not going to want to drink right and this this is whole whe flow it makes you feel good you’re not just you know constantly hammered and shoved full of red salted red meat you know so maybe there’s some Merit in what these but but then that over the course of 60 years turns into like yeah and hey if you eat it only if you’re white you can control people’s minds so that’s how this stuff evolves so I want to see how the gut health cult evolves over the next 30 Years hm to then get me to join a weird commune out in ohigh cuz it’s going to happen I’m interested to see if like if there’s any intersection between gut health and cereal because I don’t know about you but cereal is a big no no in this like Community oh 100% no I think Cal cereal has been like surpassed by Greek yogurt which is a gut health thing like you literally see the effects of this happening in large scale economic shifts where like cereal you’ve seen on its way out and then Greek yogurt on its way up which is why we have the anot buy this come join our cult we have a Comm out in oh I don’t condone that behavior um but no and a lot of that has to do with the way that people’s perceptions of Health have been shifting right now we’ve been dealing with like 40 years of like carb phobia sure sure which I we’re all we’re all victim to it of course we’re all victim to it you are you are you are I am he is all of us going through the In-N-Out Drive Julia Julia takes the top bun off of her hamburger a i dided a guy who did that I eat it that’s weird I always eat her top bun then I take the top bun and I swipe it through all the fillings that have fallen out of her hamburger after that but the point is Greek yogurt there’s like two splits in this cult right now protein cult which do you see do what did I eat before this podcast you see what I was doing Pig bar I don’t know no I took turkey I took turkey lunch meat and I diped it in our and I diped it in our nice shamb Bard did you say diap I diped I diped my turkey slices I I ate I have to eat 50 grams of protein every 4 hours feel like I haven’t completed my or else he’s going to scream and it’s going to make me strong it makes me strong in in body in Mind and Spirit am I gut health person I am so I think that’s the two biggest splits right now you have like the very mascul lied right you got all these Alpha Dog podcasts out telling you got to eat 200 g of protein a day uhuh and then you have the somewhat more feminine this is the yogurt cult and we’re talking about in stereotypical terms I don’t necessarily agree with then you got the yogurt gut health collagen smoothie girly cult that’s me a little bit no 100% you Nicole what was the coconut probiotic yogurt what does that do for you oh the coconut cat yogurt I have a spoonful every morning what does it do you want me to stay on this podcast tell yeah this listen to this podcast I’m not going to tell them it makes me feel good it makes me feel it’s like taking a a multivitamin it’s been full multiv these things do you take vitamins do you take vitamins no I don’t believe in vitamins at all no I think vitamins exist but I think if you eat a varied enough diet you get all of not only the vitamins but the provitamins that you need to activate those vitamins I heard it on I heard it on a guy who once had a buddy who was on Joe Rogan’s podcast and he said that he said not take vitamins he said that if I eat elk meat that’ll finally be big and strong and my dad will love me okay so you don’t take F no no daily vitamins no a lot of bodybuilders and and lifters and stuff will take like a multivite yeah but I think a lot of them are also the ones who every single day are only eating chicken rice and a little bit of broccoli whereas I am constantly eating all theet K vinegar vinegar and K AB know the is nutritional science as it relates to your life changes all the time and you see very strange repercussions to this and I’m really curious where this is going in the future so for instance right um Amazon buying Whole Foods what about it Whole Foods used to be you’ve been to like an older Whole Foods right what do you mean there’s the Whole Foods in ch Oaks that just looks like a house oh I love that one it’s an old school like first gen Whole Foods and the vibe in there is so different it’s because the ceilings are so low the ceilings are so low because Whole Foods was just a bit of a crackpot health food store when it started out in Austin Texas Right started in Austin yeah Whole Foods are hqs based on Austin wow okay yeah oh man the big Austin Whole Foods they got is incredible never um but I think a lot of these like former Health Food things aroan for instance was based off of the macrobiotic diet which was like its own sort of cultes fat I’ve been a fan of the macrobiotic diet for years explain to them what the macrobiotic diet is I don’t actually know what it is no me neither it was like Madonna Madonna was into it no all I know is that there’s a place called M Cafe in Beverly Hills and I used to go to the macrobiotic Cafe all the time I think it’s it’s like no refined sugars and like no refine like uh things okay macrobiotic aims to avoid food containing toxins there’s no such thing as a toxin many people follow a completely vegan diet with no dairy products or Meats but some people eat small amounts of organic fish and meat there is no scientific scientific evidence that the macrobiotic treats or cures cancer I love macrobiotic food though I thought of the third direction that the cul ification of health food could go not One Direction no not One Direction there’s a third so you got like heavy no carb Alpha Dog eaten elk meat and stuff uhhuh then you got the gut health girlies uhhuh which you can be a boy you can be non-binary and be a gut health girly you know listen I I eat my I drink my ollipop with Jerusalem AR choke inulin in there you know I like to poop cuz I got to poop out all that elk meat then I’m eating and then you got the third and I think this is a really fun one which one you got like the 3D printed meat that I think a lot of this started with like impossible and Beyond uhuh but I think you have the futurists okay who are like in the future we won’t need agriculture we don’t need to think about nutrients because everything will be bioengineered I would really like to be a part of that wave you think you can convert from you know how you you know how you talk about like how your post food yeah Post restaurant Post restaurant I think I’m like eeking towards post food too cuz I’m like I’m just tired of eating you have you had have you had soilent no but I really want to have soilent it kind of it tastes really good I feel like I would really Vibe with soilent for like a week and then I’d be like I need Joy I but I think but I would like to have the mental wherewithal to be that kind of futurist to biohack to like be able to I don’t know micro do mushrooms at work or whatever the heck yeah i’ in one day I’m out here I got 6 days so I wake up at 2:30 in the morning right and then I meditate and I get my oxytocin response in on the elliptical in two in two hours that’s one day day number two in my day I take a poop I’m there for an hour I’m listening to a book on tape on triple speed that’s three days is this hypothetical what no this is how I this is how I wake up every single day okay which which of these three directions of modern day Health cult esque food beliefs okay do you think you’re going to win out in the future first up bio biohacker biohackers who are drinking soilent and making meat out of mushrooms and adding hemoglobin into it and 3D printing your chickens I think I think it might just be all three of them going at the same rate actually you think we’re going to have like 3D printed elk meat yes I do with probiotics and collagen inside it so you look hot like Haley Bieber but also are have such a then ab belly is Joe Rogan AB but then also what was the Twitter guy Jack dorsy but also like go to you know monthlong silence Retreats like Jack dorsy I think that’s that’s what’s bound to happen I mean at least for the elite I me who’s the leader of this you who leads it I don’t think I have what it takes to be a cult leader I know some people say that I do he absolutely has what it I don’t have the stamina and the energy to do it he absolutely does he’s just being humble right now there’s one person who’s led the world I believe in cult esque food beliefs who do you think it is well we we order her salads all the time in this kitchen and is ptro cuz there are these names that go down in history right Sylvester Graham you know uh James Caleb Jackson uh John Harvey Kellogg CW POS like these are names that go down in history and I want to know the people that are going to go down in history liver King this generation the liver King liver King and gwenneth palro oh that’s a good one that is a good dichotomy of people yeah and then there’s like whoever The Impossible food CEO is it’s just a cute robot it’s not even a person it’s the robot making the food cuz they’re going to have I don’t know whatever they call it Consciousness and like three years when we put a chip in them I mean that could be that could be a new good one you know it’s just like an AI Le what does it do with cereal it all has to do with the origins of the cereal because Nicole cereal is really the origins of ourselves and I think it tells us a lot about us as a society and where we’re going in the future and also we made a cereal and it’s called mish mash you can buy it eat Mish mash.com and it’s very delicious hold up the other oh my God I’m trying my back hurts cuz I don’t eat enough cereal but if you eat cereal and collogen and elk meate and soilent it won’t bye mish mash cereal your [Music] Schmucks all right Nicole for heard you and I have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky opinions are rattling out there in the universe it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like cassero but first Nicole before we get to that we have everybody’s true favorite segment review a review that is where I review one of the many reviews you have left on the Apple podcast review page please go review us it does help this says from at kitty cat Kell almost four stars despite giving us five stars wanted to give four stars for some of the opinions that Josh and ncoil have but everyone is entitled to their own wrong opinion and that is very true that the whole point of the podcast well at least the second half of it that’s great and I don’t think you should be judged for the qualitative analysis of your opinion but for the quantitative analysis it should just be about the amount of opinions that you have and the amount of words that you say about each opinion let me tell you us to so many opinions we have the best words oh the review gets two stars oh five star review 100% all right first opinion hey Josh hey Nicole this is uh Nathan coming at you from Palm Springs uh shout out Palm Springs so my family hates me for this but sorry one weird food opinion I have is I used to like to um wrap marshmallows in salami and eat it when I was a kid and my family still hates me for it so uh let me know what you think about that and uh yeah I have a bit of a hypothesis okay you go with yours do you think that maybe his family hates him for deeper reasons but was just using the salami marshmallow thing as an excuse why isn’t your microphone on your table I just felt like reclining right now megie is that shot okay for you okay I think I look great in the shop I’m just making sure megie is okay with I think I look great right now um I I think I think I understand you just wanted the sweet and salty marshmallows I don’t keep them in the house I don’t e them in the house I keep a lot of marshmallows in the house I really do yeah I’d rather keep salami in the house I I I I always keep some sort of condom meat yeah like a cured heavily spiced meat in the fridge love Sal sometimes it’s Teresa sometimes it’s Salam sometimes P um sometimes it’s like a longanisa or linguisa any of the ISA really I like keeping them a fridge um the pairing paing are you do you Nathan level with me are you like a cat catat love both salami and marshmallows C love novel Tex they love novel textures and novel and they kind of are indiscriminate about what they taste like because their tast or sheps aren’t the same as ours so I’m wondering if you are part cat um but no as as a human the human eating experience of that to me would not be pleasant whatsoever I think it’d be really Pleasant really yeah I would do that salami go you want to make meat M yeah maybe I do what if Nicole inste meat M you had Mac and Mos we did that part you don’t need to show it off anymore okay put it down all right next opinion hey J Cole Love podcast this is fipo out in Colorado Springs and I made a mistake bought some Roy cuz I wanted a nice little tree never really had it before and oh flavors sound nice I know they don’t really taste like anything it’s SM smell and I put it in the glass that ruins all the flavor all the flavors in the can drinking less carbonated flavored is cold water you think so wait a DI wait who can get up from this table and grab a lroy in a glass right now Magie megie run um R thank you so much me I really appreciate you um this is fascinating because I’ve never I one I would think the opposite would happen right like with a beer when you pour it into a glass you can actually smell it you can get the Aromas you dip your nose you go you dip your nose inside the foam you dip your nose in the foam yeah you got to dip your nose in the foam of a beer oh my gosh megie thank you Meg wait I need a glass Meg I need a glass thank you we’re going to do this little experiment see see what’s up um this is apricot Chad do you tell that some so many of these flavor like what’s a Beach Plum I love Beach plums my favorite Lor flavor I smell the apricot I don’t taste it but I smell it and smells part of taste you got it you got that flavor Lo pour pour it in the glasses I don’t know I I don’t have a scientific reason for this other than like they they claim that they use natural fruit Essence right but is that in all Lao or is that just for like citrus ones that makes sense I’m not sure no it smells it’s I didn’t get it in the trash can fipo from Colorado Springs is absolutely lying it smells and tastes 100% more intense like d double triple yeah in a glass um what are you saying but I don’t like that you’re lying for attention I don’t like that you’re making up fibs do you think you might have like just let it out like left it out maybe yeah I’m I’m trying to understand I would know fipa can you call back was there ice in the glass if there was ice in the glass the coldness might reduce the scent yeah no 100% And that would also release the carbonation I’m wondering if if some of the um flavor agent whatever is in there is maybe trapped in the bubbles well I think I think Philip has to call back Philip call call back man let’s talk about it let’s talk about it but but I do think you’re lying for attention and I don’t like that we did a science experiment and you were wrong deal with it hey guys this is Zach I’m from LA to U my opinion is kind of just like a journalism opinion but it presents itself a lot in the food world and that is if someone States something as a question so if an article’s headline is best ice latte in Los Angeles Mark or best breakfast burrito in the country Mark that’s not a statement and I feel like coffee shops or restaurants or whatever will always ride that wave and be like oh yeah we’re the best ice latte in North America whatever they didn’t say that they asked it so yeah that’s my opinion love you guys hope you’re well goodbye bye okay well from this is actually very this is a very astute opinion is a very smart person you’re a person who makes uh titles thumbs for YouTube channels for YouTube I was a person who probably wrote some of the articles that they’re referencing there was a really funny times I I used to be a journalist um and still try and keep a little bit of journal journalistic efficaciousness and what we do here but there was a time when we were producing I just started working at mythical we’re producing some episodes about donuts and Stevie was like Hey like we need the like the best most coolest Donuts in La can you find them was like yeah I know exactly what they are and she goes well no can you just like do some research and I was like Stevie Google Google best donuts in LA right now and she Googled it in my article that I wrote about the best donuts in La were at the top of the list do you want to know a secret do you want to know a fun secret that I thought I’d take to the grave but now I want to I want to tell Zach the truth what there were several Donuts on there that I’d never eaten before oh yeah I was just like I I don’t think I’ve eaten it was like the 19 best donuts in La you ate like maybe like I don’t think I’d eaten 19 different Donuts in La you find a doughnut spot near you you kind of eat it so your journalistic integrity is not as no it’s you are forced to write like three articles a day to keep the SEO search engine optimization train turning and there so many Jonathan Gold only food writer to ever win a peiter prize he did it for La weekly um so many people like why can’t we go back to the days of Jonathan Gold writing great reviews because he would go back to a restaurant four or five times on the dime of the publication and he would write you know one review every two weeks one review a month whereas you start in the industry now you’re making $30,000 year you got student loan deck CU they won’t hire you without a degree and then you dropped out of college so you just lied about your degree and then you lied about the Don shops you didn’t actually go to and it’s a really hard life so if adding a question mark to the end of your thing will get 15% higher click-through rate you know and more page views that might up the advertising dollars so you could potentially make $34,000 a year instead of $30,000 a year that’s what you got to do it’s a rough life out there what he said I like doing this better hey what’s up Josh and Nicole this is Jeff I’m currently moving from Arizona to Tennessee it’s about a 24hour drive and I’m 20 hours into it and I’ve listened to your guys podcast every single minute I’ve been in the brain is melted thanks for the endless entertainment it’s been nothing short of a treat uh my hot food C is that asparagus no matter how it’s prepared or what it’s topped with is not good enough to justify the fact that my pee is going to smell bad for the next three to four hours so let me know what you think love the pot talk to you guys next time one very flattering that that and also thank you for listening to us for so long I don’t know if that’s a good idea listening to us for that long take a break I couldn’t listen to and either of us for that long listen to a fantasy football podcast brother uh no no keep listening keep listening buy the products have use the discount codes have M smash cereal um I actually did a 23 and me and I found that I carry the Jean that makes that asparagus makes my pea smell like I have that did I need did Testa tell me that no but it’s nice to know that I have it and I disagree I think asparagus is delicious and it’s probably one of my favorite vegetables to naan especially big asparagus not the babies big I love big asparagus big fat thick asparagus is my favorite and um I actually think it totally justifies smelly pea I think beets also justify your pee being a little bit tinged red and pink so I I have the Beet Jean cuz some people don’t get that they call it Scarlet Trace where you eat a red I have it hard why my PE so confusing oh my God I will go pee after eating beets and I will have forgotten that I ate beets and I’ll just think there’s blood in my urine and then I start frantically Googling blood you know started toning for my sence but the asparagus thing so I don’t get that the asparagus pee thing I’ve never I’ve never I don’t smell other people’s pee often enough to know what asparagus pee smells like and so for me I’ve always been flumix I’m like how often and for what elapsed amount of time are you spending in your own pea smell and if you are spending more than say the 15 seconds that it takes to pee with your own pea smell I think it’s more of a lifestyle issue like if you’re just peeing in a bucket in the corner of your bedroom I have I’ve had friends that just keep a gatorade bottle near their bed and they just pee in the bottle instead of going to the bathroom you know if you’re doing that in their room yeah I just got a piss bottle in the car I understand in your room there’s a bathroom I agree nobody likes that they do that but they do that that’s the point so I’m saying do people have roommates sorry I touch housemates not not living in their room they have so they have their own separate room where their PE bottle is this is multiple people by the way M A housemate is a roommate well yeah but there’s a difference of peeing in a gatorade bottle with somebody in a bed 3 feet away from you versus there’s no implication wait a second wait a second there’s no implication that your roommate is in the room with you when you live with your roommate sure but I I’m saying for the purpose of the Pea bottle there’s not a person they they are enclosed by four walls away from the do you think it’s because they have social anxiety and they don’t want to see the person like it’s definitely it’s I mean it’s something it’s it’s one of those acronyms that you know depression CD like you know something like that it’s something okay um but I multiple pea bottle friends and so if you’re spending that much time around your own pee I I think you have bigger issues than the asparagus smell how many of your friends have pea bottles like three do I know any of them no I can’t wait to meet them yeah no you will one day and they’ll I’m not going to tell you that they were the pee Bott friend until ask you it’s going to be my wedding I’m going to ask you and you’re going to say yes or no I’m going I’m going to tell you after my wedding who whose hand you shook that maybe PE in a bottle then I uh anyways I love asparagus C the only thing that makes my pee smell is coffee I drink a bunch of coffee and I pee and it smells which improves the smell of my pee because it just smells like you know fers um best no of waking up is peeing in your cup it’s actually Don Francis I drink Don Francisco every can you do a Don Francisco jingle you like that bimo thank you hey Josh and Nicole long time first time uh this is Travis from St Louis long time listen first time caller sorry to all the WHAS out there but I just wanted to say that the best Mayo for elote is Q I think enjoy the show disagree I disagree I disagree Maya yeah yeah mccormic Maya conon correct absolutely no CI could never well no C can Cy could but the best is mccormic mayona lion well here well let’s play some devil’s advocate here uh Abado de Diablo if you will um Abado is that lawyer yeah but Advocate like means lawyer in what world like uh French for lawyers a avocat which is literally where Advocate comes from like a lawyer advocates for somebody I learn an advocate do they still use the term advocate in Britain or no it’s kind of an old time temp but anyways um play devil’s advocate here you’re already likely putting fresh lime juice and Orten which is dehydrated lime juice or citric acid on that so there’s a world in which QP is there’s MSG in it to me it’s eggier it’s a little bit sweeter less athetic less salty than it works 100% do you think it would be better I I don’t you know what’s better than that blue bonnet oh you’re talking about the the the butter Blue Bonnet fake butter par par I don’t like butter like that like even in in general I just don’t butter and mayonnaise together is the best on aote I don’t love it um the only thing I no I don’t think there’s ever a World in which I prefer like on some bunme they’ll do like Maggie um Brown like the brown sauce they’ll do Maggie with mayonnaise and butter and spread that in the bunme and I would just always prefer mayonnaise as opposed to butter interesting to me butter is just it’s like thicker stodger unseasoned mayo and so for me if I’m doing a lote yeah I um I’ll generally mix mayonnaise with some sort of hot sauce but the mccormic mayona conon is the one that I will likely use and then I just probably enjoy using that on most of my Foods yeah that’s what we should start that’s a that’s another food cult out there is the qy cult we can talk about in the next podcast the only thing I want Q in is if I’m mixing some sort of sweet with it and then like dipping a Japanese fried dish is that true I love Cy tuna salad no I would rather use a uh like a Best Foods Dukes Dukes does a great job probably the best but to me there’s never been anything wrong with Best Foods mayonnaise or helmet as it’s called well no there’s no more helmet anymore right I don’t know I think it’s all Best Foods now something they may have discontinued it but I respect the fact that you’re playing with AE and ele is one of my favorite foods to make at home I don’t make a lot of AE at home oh my favorite thing to bring to parties and potlucks like uh actual corn on the CB or yeah I’ll cut the I’ll cut the corn into like uh three segments and square it off a little bit you bring that to parties yeah awesome yeah and then I’ll just uh you know kind of boil a little bit throw it on the grill put it in a big old sheet tray drizzle it all with the mayonnaise it’s my favorite thing nice nice hey Josh and Nicole this is Drew from Connecticut usually I’m a big fan of the show but I have to say you disappointed me so much we will do it again listen to your is pork white meat podcast and as a donnut lover you went over at the end one of the opinions and didn’t know how cake Donuts were made oh yeah that was a weird saying that they’re baked no no no no no it’s soon as you bake it it’s a cake ring Donuts have to be fried so whether it’s a yeast donut or a cake dut it’s got to be fried to call it way and there’s room in the world for both of them one day you’re a yeast person one day you’re a cake person but yeah I’m sorry guys you just let me down I’m sure you’ll make up for it but anyways still love you and uh take care there was a real the donut lover there was a real amount of disappointment what’s the last time you disappointed someone like that um uh probably more recently than I’d like I’m sorry I will do it again um um I don’t want to agree with you because if I go into the back of a dut shop and I see a comi oven I know that it’s being used for dut cookery no they’re probably like uh melting the cheese on their turkey cheese croissant I I don’t know if that tracks a lot of people so in ell donut shops are like the closest things we have to bodegas in La true true true um they’ll sell like lottery tickets and sometimes cigarettes that they’re not supposed to be selling but you can go there you can get like any amount of croissant sandwich and donuts and sometimes you walk in and they they’re not selling Donuts or coffee or anything you try and buy something and they’re just like get out of here and you’re like what’s this storefront actually being used for um so yeah that what’s up some cake Donuts are baked then fried though they are some cake Donuts though are just extruded the batter is extruded through a little like shotgun thing yeah but like surely there are places that are baking them in a ring mold and then frying them because it’s no I I don’t know if if they would do that I don’t know what’s going onore I agree that Donuts have to be fried no they don’t you you take a yeast doughnut and you bake it that’s a roll yes you fry it that’s a donut the frying is endemic to Donut hood is it also not just that I’m seeking this person’s approval but I am because you set that up um I found myself craving a cake donut over a yeast donut for the first time in my life very recently are you pregnant I I might be and I will love the baby no matter what gender it is but they’re playing American football regardless what gender they’re playing football that’s girl boy and no they’re playing T they’re playing left tackle apple cider donut that’s cake donut and that’s a very good donut is it fried yes it’s fried of course you can you know you know what you know what Donuts aren’t fried Nicole ones that say baked Donuts like veggie burger the the the baked negates the dut Hood it’s it’s fo’s gold so you it’s avoided check so enman is fried what timman Donuts no I I don’t know if timman is fried but that’s like a prepackaged you know situation I said that it’s endic to Donut Hood no I don’t think they would be they’re not fried right are they fried I’m giving you an example of a doughnut that is not fried and you’re saying that entiments Donuts are not Donuts well they might be fried we just don’t know what do you think yeah they’re probably baked right just be easier to bake them but there’s a spray of oil there’s a wet so are you telling me just because Captain Crunch is sprayed with oil and then iced with sugar that means it’s a donut now get out of here Josh ever go to a place called phuts yeah it’s like they’re like healthy big oh you should donut lover come out to Los Angeles we’ll take you to phuts it’s gluten free vegan and baked and they have like fun little flavors strawberry pistachio and then and they all just taste 80% worse than you want them to all right well on that note we’re going to get the heck out of here uh thank you so much not by Hot Dogs of sandwich we got new episodes audio only every Wednesday we got the video coming out on YouTube tube and if you want to be on opinions or like casseres hit us up at 833 dogp Pod 1 the number again is 833 dogp one I got a stain on this shirt but I was going to wear it to dinner can I still wear it to dinner yeah it’s fine I have another shirt to wear but it kind of makes me look like lame can I see what it looks like the other shirt yeah no cuz I think you’re going to like it and you’re going to tell me to wear it and is that bad if my opinion makes what do you mean are you asking for my opinion or no m no I wanted you to validate what I already wanted to do which is wear this stained shirt for din I think you should look your best at 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