ramble before you get into today’s episode it’s me trevor everetts the host of the podcast trevor talks too much here to tell you about a very special episode we have uh it’s gonna be all me solo not only will i be talking too much by my darn self but i’ll be giving you all a closer look into my mind the window into the inner workings of the mythical swag lord uh so we’ll be talking a bit more about me this particular episode is all about some of the struggles i’ve had coming out of the pandemic social anxiety and how some of these new connections have me kind of looking deeper into my inner self and doing some reflection so don’t forget to be on the lookout for this episode next week by subscribing to trevor talks too much on apple spotify or wherever you get your podcast you eat pounds of it on halloween you get it squirted into your mocha you gift it to your romantic partner everyone loves chocolate but there’s one question burning up our brains is chocolate candy this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich why am i going baseball announcer just a bit outside welcome to our podcast the hot dogs the sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole hendizada and today we’re talking is chocolate candy oh my gosh oh this is this is a toffee this is one that i had never really thought about puffy it’s i think it’s a bit of a toughie really i don’t think it’s this is one that we we’ve been suggested a lot from people uh we got this in our in our instagram dms a few times i’ve gotten a lot of weirder things on our instagram dms but this was one of the less weird ones that i thought was a really good one to talk about but nicole you worked in a chocolate shop yes i did a fancy one was it a candy shop or a chocolate shop okay it was definitely a chocolate shop but we also had confections oh i would say the answer of is chocolate candy is no it’s not whoa i mean you know what i’m going to say you know i’m going to do the classic in the 17th century uh oh far before the 17th century called the roots of chocolate go back thousands of years dating back the nahuatl aztec word chocolate from referring to the bitter drink that was made with the cacao beans that was reserved only for kings and the visiting conquistadors visiting conquistadors jesus the conquering conquistadors what a that was a way to wash history the conquering conquistadors were gifted chocolatel and they said that it actually had an intoxicating almost a mollifying effect on their nerves uh no i think chocolate candy though no it’s not yeah what what snickers is it a candy bar or a chocolate bar it’s a chocolate bar it’s a candy bar it’s a chocolate bar no way like when you give out you give out candy on halloween right you give out things [Laughter] no it’s an okay okay all right like yeah you can put it under the umbrella for like kids again like i just don’t think it you can have you’re dumbing down your nomenclature for the channel exactly gold cares about kids i always dumb down my nomenclature for children are you kidding me you did teach like children’s cooking classes i did i did and it was quite fun and i loved it very much especially did that even when you started working here right you would like moonlight on the weekends i would yeah uh yeah my favorite thing was one time i was teaching a uh a tacos and tamales class and some kid just went elbows deep into the masa just punch in like hey nicole look and like and then he would just lift his hand up and it was just covered in muscle i’m like well i gotta throw ten pounds of that away that’s why i don’t like kids because you know that like his hand was not clean children’s hands never clean yeah i would actually teach truffle rolling classes to kids too back like when i was like 20 21 oh my god you taught those kids how to make candy i no chocolate truffles okay what about josh what about chocolate flavored candies like tootsie rolls like taffy what about that to me oh boy does that have actual chocolate in it because i don’t know this is not dissimilar from the is a hot dog sandwich debate in the sense that hot dog both refers to the meat tube as well as the finished dish inside the bun right yeah that was the thing when when alton brown and i for some reason took like an entire day to try and troll alton brown on twitter because i would like him to be on the podcast but i don’t think he likes me anymore alton brown we love i like him he likes me he doesn’t know me how can you not like someone you don’t know yeah that’s fair i think maybe it’s just my low self-esteem i think so too i love alton brown uh but anyways he he tweeted like of course a hot dog is a sandwich so i just tweeted a picture of a naked hot dog at him and was like you’re telling me this is a sandwich because i mean it is reasonably referred to as a hot dog in the same way that chocolate is literally like you know a plant i mean you call it the the cacao bean but if you’re talking about raw unprocessed chocolate that’s still chocolate but then you kind of switch that so far over to like a tootsie roll which likely has at least a little bit of real chocolate in it not just a fake flavor extractive i assume at least so that like you know is that a chocolate is a lint truffle a chocolate that is made with unprocessed chocolate those are two distinct different things when you say the word chocolate you’re referring to like multiple different steps within the process sure yes so a lot of people don’t i do okay as a kid i remember rummaging around the house looking for sweets because i had a sweet tooth and i really wanted it yeah and i saw hershey’s uh like unprocessed cocoa unsweetened oh i know what you did uh-huh and i was like oh my god i know what chocolate is this says chocolate yeah this must just be a sweet delicious powdered chocolate imma put it in my mouth and i took a huge spoonful of just dark baking cocoa and just went yeah you just spit it all over yeah because we refer to chocolate like as you know hershey’s kisses that’s a chocolate yeah it’s a brand it’s a brand yeah yeah but there’s actually a a tick tock trend where parents are feeding their children coco and then they’re like chocolate chocolate and then like yeah yeah yeah man you suck any tick tock is uh deeply troubling to me yeah have you ever seen the one where they have the water bottle and they like shake it on the kid no what oh my god yeah dude there’s a weird like fine line of slightly abusive parenting on tik tok like there’s a lot of reasons to be uncomfortable about tick tock there’s certainly a lot of young people dancing in provocative life yeah yeah yeah uh that just come up on your feed uh randomly i deleted tick tock like six months ago because it’s good for my health we have like a professional tic toc and occasionally you know we’ll just scroll through it like my brain can’t handle like all of the like information that was like in like seven seconds no there was just like a video of a parent feeding a child like ghost pepper no one like an infant that’s that’s yeah and he was like i didn’t actually feed him ghost pepper it was a joke but it was like i don’t know man like it looked pretty real and kids started crying like yeah that’s very strange so yeah this weird like even the jimmy kimmel segment of taking the uh the candy away from the kids yeah it’s just like i don’t know do you want to like intentionally cause distress to children i mean i don’t know i feel like children need to experience like levels of like happiness and sadness and stuff like that yeah but you shouldn’t i don’t know i don’t think you should artificially inflate those kids levels of happiness and sadness on your whims especially for jimmy kimmel i’m not a doctor i don’t know anything about that but i do know about chocolate and candy and chocolate are two very different let’s get back to parenting my biggest fear is that i’m just gonna irrevocably screw a kid up you might quit by having the best intentions then you just don’t have kids but then they’re like he didn’t take any my candy away and i never got on kimmel now i’m messed up and now i wrote a book about it flaming my parents anyways the point is i think now chocolate has come so far that when you refer to the idea of chocolate you were referring to a sweetened bar right even like the the webster dictionary definition of chocolate says like most likely sweetened so i think you’re referring to the processed product again into a hershey’s bar a lint truffle the little dove ones that we got in the office do you know that my mom takes a bag of them the milk chocolate ones and puts them in the freezer and then every now and then i go and i take one and then uh and it’s really cold and then i read the little note that says you deserve this i said i roll it up in a ball girl you do deserve it and i roll it up in a bond i throw it over the balcony this is that was just a long way to say that you you casually litter hey it’s okay it’s pretty it’s blue have you ever had i’ve always wanted to to try the original aztec drink chocolate um there’s a place that called choco vivo that does ceremonial chocolate is that in like culver’s yeah yeah yeah they do ceremonial chocolate drinking uh experiences we used to do stuff at the chocolate store i used to work at we used to do ceremonial chocolate stuff too sometimes very weird like they like really fetishize chocolate as like this like amazing like supernatural like ceremony and it and it is but i feel like people like co-op that i know it’s like it’s like um oh god there’s like a lot of white dudes slinging matcha group matcha tea now oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that’s sort of thing especially like using the term ceremonial grade yeah matcha and whatnot yeah um and i have been to an actual matcha tea ceremony it was beverly hills tempura endo i got a free meal there oh my gosh you went to temple endo and you didn’t tell me you’re amazing a long time ago i went bad boss i it was i would not accept many free meals unless it was something i wanted which yeah wow what a moral hero i didn’t do a thing unless i really wanted to um but it was like a 350 tempura tasting tempura endo have you been no i’m not i’m not gonna spend i’m not gonna spend 350 on tempura i’m sorry it was pretty cool dude they’d like swish it in the tempura and then the chef would just hand it to you like can i just pluck in this like this truffle stuffed tempura scallop those dudes hands and they have like the yuzu salt and all that but they did a matcha tea ceremony but anyways there is a coffee shop um in boyle heights that is like trying to make the uh chocolate as accurately as possible that’s awesome as they did in like the aztec days including with like the agua meal like the natural sweetener that’s awesome that sounds really cool and it’s funny because now you know people think of chocolate as a european thing right swiss chocolate french chocolate all this yeah that’s incorrect it is yeah and i mean that stuff was all just like colonized but that becomes our kind of like main frame of reference right now and especially when we’re talking about candy making and chocolatiering and all that stuff like you think of the french tradition which the chocolate making and candy making are two very very distinct skill sets yeah like i’m i’m not gonna put a a truffle a beautiful krug champagne truffle dusted in beautiful 90 cocoa with a gummy worm i’m saying these the same i’m not going to say that but but they do have similarities in a way just because they are fortified with sugar they’re forever sugar but also the way that i think you eat them as like a treat like it’s not a meal because if you look at like like patisserie right like sure pastry stuff yeah like that it that can be eaten as a snack whatever but that is like a very very common breakfast all across i mean also all across like mexico you look like conchas uh and all that stuff yeah pandul says yeah pandola says yeah so uh you know pastry making is a lot to do with an actual meal whereas i think candy making and chocolatiering which i do consider like part of the same thing they’re just little like little treats right they’re literally like confections it’s like a funny they’re confections but they’re different there’s so much uh like artisanal knowledge that you have to have to be able to create like gummy candies and like confections and then on the flip side the same thing with chocolate like have you ever tempered chocolate no it’s the worst experience in the world so let’s save us it’s the worst if you don’t know how okay tempering chocolate is honestly a headache like it’s all different what does tempering chocolate actually do so it it creates a really beautiful snap and texture whenever you coat it with something so uh you like take it to cert to a certain degree and then you bring it down and then you bring it back up and then you like swish it about like on a on like a surface i haven’t done it in a long time as you can tell but it like really helps make this beautiful like snappy shiny chocolate i made a chocolate covered baseball cap once what’s a baseball cap baseball cap a hat yeah do you not call it a baseball cap uh it’s a hat are all hats baseball caps this is a hot dog is a sandwich i’m literally with this baseball cap it’s like a hat with a brim on it is that an outback steakhouse hat give me oh yeah yeah shout out to the the outback steakhouse we made a bloomin onion cheeseburger sweaty yeah it’s pretty sweaty i ran this morning we got a blue million cheeseburger on tick tock and then outback sent me a hat and some other stuff we do i do do love the outback um so get it good day mates hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythical heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability what about caramel is it caramella candy of course or is it like caramel here’s another here’s another another brain buster for you when you refer to something as a candy i think it is like a finished dish huh in a way a candy has a sense of completion to it as in like is a chocolate chip a candy no but is it hershey’s kiss of candy no why the chocolate okay is uh is this a is a reese’s cup of candy yeah right yeah a little bit that’s what i’m saying but i’m saying there’s a sense of completion to it like you have made an all-inclusive snack sort of thing snack treat whatever right that you’re like supposed to to eat so like the less the kind of more raw and less finished something is the less likely you are to call it a candy like to me like a straight-up hershey’s bar versus a hershey’s cookies and cream bar mm-hmm like hershey’s are these different to you like a hershey’s bar i don’t consider like a candy in a way even though i said the chocolate is candy and whatever i’m still trying to reason this out in my mind because to me i’m like no a candy has some sort of effort put into it you don’t think chocolate has f are you kidding me there’s some some sort of so much effort some sort of like mental effort to like it’s like if you got a sandwich that was plain bread uh-huh i’d be or even butter on bread i’d be like that’s buttered bread that ain’t a sandwich in the same way between two slices of bread is just butter yeah that’s a butter sandwich see but i wouldn’t consider that a sandwich in the sense that someone’s like yo i’m gonna go eat a sandwich and then you just get a butter sandwich have you ever that’s like some great depression aristotle are you kidding me and the butter’s cut with sauce do you know what i have you gotta wait in line to get a job at the mill do you know what me and my family do in the mornings you take a piece of bread and then you take a piece of cold butter and then you have tea on the side with some sugar and you eat the butter sandwiches well yeah i’m not denying that bread and butter is a great food the other day in the kitchen when trevor made those loaves of bread we just sat there and slathered it in butter really good bread i still have the bread really it’s still oh no i made it through that with the bread yeah i thought it was good it looked good i still got that guaca salsa in the fridge guaca salsa under speaking of guaca salsa just a thin avocado salsa to me wow what a treat what’s so fun to make at home oh yeah anyways uh the point is i think candy has a sense of completion to it as in a hershey’s cookies and cream bar to me is a candy whereas a hershey’s bar itself is not even a hershey’s crackle bar you put a couple little rice crispy thingies inside of a thing i think that then becomes a candy there has to be some sort of addition to the chocolate for it to be a candy that makes nose i can’t rationalize what you’re saying right now at all in the same way that i feel and i feel the definition of candy has evolved if you look at willy wonka yes willy wonka and the chocolate factory this is not we stan sexy willy wonka have you seen sexy willy wonka on on technical i’m gonna google it no there’s a guy on tick tock he’s like a very sexy man and he dresses like willie he dresses like chart like johnny depp’s willy wonka this guy yeah yeah yeah he’s sexy really wanted yeah it’s it’s really jarring uh but i i watch a lot of his videos he is quite sexy but anyways in this song the candyman can and the original willy wonka the chocolate factory that is not charlie and the chocolate factory which is the original name of the book and also the johnny depp movie uh the candy man implies that marshmallows are a standalone candy stop oh my god he hasn’t only fancy oh my god this is a work laptop i have the company card for like five minutes so we’re not getting only it’s if it’s for research i think we can also guys go to only hams.org only him we don’t know what we’re gonna do with the website yet please write in the comments wherever they may be what you want to see on onlyhams.com yeah i mean.org personally i just want to see josh picking up some hams just throwing the hands across the room yeah shirt maybe apron possibly yeah it’ll be like a cropped apron though what’s the crafting crap you cut it off at the midline it defeats the purpose of the apron yeah no but it’s sexy like sexy when they walk up i got the jorts and i got the cropped apron and i’m holding hams baby hams.org just like have you ever seen people work out with those like uh big like juggler things have you ever seen those like big batons yeah yeah just just twisted into him i like this idea what were you talking about candy is a marshmallow candy to you oh my god isn’t it no a marshmallow uh it’s like a confection but see what’s a convection confection is the overarching uh umbrella and then there’s chocolate candy etc chocolate candy etc and that’s all under the umbrella of confectionary i would say so i think you can raise candy to that umbrella term i think confection is just like you know a pedantic word to describe candy hmm maybe it might i think under candies you have under candy as the overarching i am physically making yeah me too we’re both hands over head making an umbrella right now we have we have candy at the top and then you have gummy candies you have caramels you have chocolate bars what’s toffee what tossy toffee is part of the mmm caramel family but it what is it in chocolate well then i think of course then you have you know sort of like mixed phenotypes and that’s fine but there’s a venn diagram there’s a venn diagram but all under the umbrella of candy and then you have your hard candies right licorice you could maybe throw into the you know gummy chewy candy throw it in the garbage what about gum is gum candy gum is called candy stores gums kitty you don’t even eat gum that’s bs gum is candy chocolate covered gum i never had chocolate covered gum because i’m not a monster i have had chocolate covered gummy bears and those are my favorite thing about the whole entire universe what a clash of flavors and textures sounds terrible well yeah there’s a clash that’s so weird maybe because they’re different i’m convinced that chocolate-covered gummy bears are the best sweet ever oh sweet really sweets they’re all sweets sweets yeah so it’s also known as candy okay if you’re not if you’re under the age of 65 you don’t call them sweets you call them kids okay let’s go oh they’re lollies let’s go to the lolly shop yeah they’re all under the umbrella of lollies nicole let’s go to the fizzy wing bangers hold up dude egg creams are fire though for those who don’t know the egg creams it’s just like a heavy cream cheese there’s no egg in soda there’s no egg yeah it’s just cream it’s just milk soda right yeah i think so i grew up drinking pepsi mixed with milk wow says a lot that’s crazy do you know what does that but it curdles after like three minutes yeah no because the acid that does not interest that was like a treat i grew up we didn’t call it treat that was like a treat my mom would be like you want some like hey you seem sad you want some pepsi milk yeah shut up when when i describe so many things from my childhood it just seems like i told a story yesterday about my brother like blackmailing a waitress from ruby’s who lost my babysitter or something i don’t know like it seems more messed up than it was it was fine dude he was a child blackmailing a waitress yeah whatever you know i mean not like not like hardcore like we got some ruby’s gift certificates out of it does rubies exist anymore i don’t know what ruby’s is they’re they’re they’re they’re like on piers i’ve never been to these diners no i’ve been to johnny rock january my brother also worked at johnny rogers he did you told me yeah i met joe millionaire who joe millionaire you don’t know joe millionaire it was a reality show on fox where they had a bunch of women competing to marry a millionaire named joe and he was real sexy oh and then he wasn’t a millionaire he’s a construction worker yeah he was just like a construction worker working on a project across from johnny rockets this is long after the show had aired and i walked into johnny rockets and there is joe millionaire i can’t believe you remember still sexy we’re wearing a full construction outfit was he wearing a willy wonka coat no he should have been josh i don’t understand why you don’t understand that chocolate and candy are different you just said they’re cl they’re clash no i said chocolate and gummies clash but whatever okay candy is the overarching umbrella term not all of them for all it’s not so so what is a candy to you a candy is uh you ever had dots yes dots are garbage dots are a hard candy under the umbrella you’re thinking of candy sheets what are the ones where you get the you have to rip the little things off the paper you can eat a lot of paper yeah yeah it’s the sheet of like a rippable candy what are those yeah dots are gummy candy they look like pimples they do it’s a very dr pimple popper thing yeah they’re called candy buttons yeah candy buttons are trash but they’re hard candy yes i’m saying all of these like when you can literally add an adjective to a word to create you know a different meaning and subgroup then that means that candy is the overarching umbrella term you have a hard candy you have gummy candy you have chocolate candy all these i don’t think chocolate candy is correct because if i say hey do you want a chocolate candy and then i give you a truffle versus i give you a tootsie pop like those chocolate candy means something totally different than what you’re trying to say big oof i know i realized that right when i said that i was like oh no yeah a chocolate candy is a chocolate but what about like a child but what about like a chocolate candy bar why does the term candy bar seem to imply something because they’re three musketeers right yeah like that’s a chocolate candy bar it’s a chocolate bar it’s not you would not call you would you would you would poo poo the term candy bar to describe a hey can you get me a candy bar what do what do you think of a candy bar as oh payday without chocolate you weren’t able to pick the one without chocolate also one of my favorite abzab is taffy also one of my favorite candy bars ever is a payday ew i know everyone everyone hates it but you’re the one who likes grape nuts cereal over like cinnamon toast crunch yeah because i i believe in fiber being very very important and americans do not recognize how important fiber is in their diets that is true i love the simplicity of a payday it’s like they know who they are they don’t need to add anything also if people don’t seem to understand that the chocolate candy bar taxonomy like if you take three musketeers and you add caramel that becomes a milky way you get peanuts to that that becomes the snickers if you take away the caramel and you add nougat that becomes a baby ruth you take the chocolate off a baby ruth that’s a payday they’re all the same nicole yeah i think i think give me a chocolate bar versus give me a candy bar i think the chocolate bar is a bar of chocolate a candy bar like a bar of pure chocolate like yo this recipe calls for three chocolate bars as opposed to like candy bars damn it which are predominantly chocolate i understand that there’s like addition to it but the word bar hey can you get me a candy from the can you give me a candy from the bucket like give me or can you get me a chocolate from the bucket trick-or-treat bucket by the way okay i thought there was this around i was trying to picture a random bucket like our oil bucket in the kitchen like go reach your hand in the oil bucket see fish for some candy you know like like like if i went trick-or-treating which yeah i’m 27 i might just go trick-or-treating this year i’m just gonna go around to the different studios around here i’m just gonna go egg houses but just written links that’s funny but imagine like you go trick-or-treating and there’s a big orange face of of a bucket and then i go hey can you get me a candy from the bucket and then uh you give me a snickers and i think that’s incorrect really and i say hey can you get me a chocolate from the bucket and then you give me a pack of dots that’s wrong no but if you’re saying get me some chocolate from a bucket that’s the same thing as saying get me like some gummies in the bucket because the bucket is filled with candy and you need to differentiate what kind of candy you want to let me give you the optimal experience so if you said like get me a chocolate i got you dots obviously i would be incorrect but if you said get me a candy and did not specify choosing dots or snickers i would be correct in doing that no you had a preference you would tell me in the same way that like i mean road trip test road trips oh i knew you were gonna bring up yeah well you gotta bring the road trip yes it is wrote it here josh what did i say josh is a whole man you know how you talk about the road trip rule let’s talk about the five-year-old rule what’s the five-year-old okay well road trip road trip roll if we’re talking about the idea if we’re on a road trip we bring this up a lot and you said get me a sandwich you came back with a hot dog yeah however if you were so unpicky as to just say get me a sandwich who the heck just says a sandwich get me a sandwich give me a ham sandwich get me an egg salad sandwich get me you know whatever if they don’t have that give me the next best thing you know then that’s your fault if you didn’t specify what kind of sandwich you want that’s your fault if you didn’t specify what type of candy you want but obviously you had a preference so snickers is absolutely candy but i another point that just disagrees with my entire argument the chocolate is not the part of snickers that makes it candy that’s what i’m saying i know i and now i’m realizing that i disagree with you that’s exactly chocolate and candy chocolate is a part of candy but see now i i agree with what you said did we just switch i hate listening and shares that’s for sure i’m comfortable uncomfortable wait you’re so annoying because i just totally believe that chocolate is candy now yeah but now i’ve completely switched the other way i hate you because the chocolate is literally almost a part of candy that takes it away and farther away from being candy that’s what i thought but now i think it’s all-encompassing and it all belongs together because if you said like get me a candy like if road trip we’re at 7-eleven kids i got a pee-pee even though most seven lemons don’t have bathrooms which is the thing you’ll learn living in a city sure you’re trying to be in 7-elevens yeah anyways and i go like hey grab some candy and you come out with just like pure chocolates that’d be wrong i’d be pretty pissed yeah but then if i say uh bring me bring me a candy and it’s it’s uh sour patch kids i’d be very happy but if you brought me a snickers i would also be happy but that’s what i’m saying i think the word bar is like tripping us up but even not even bars because so many of those candy bars now have like many little versions that aren’t in bar form like snickers bites yeah you know what i’m saying is that a candy bar is that a candy i think that is a candy but that said so our payday bites in paydays don’t have chocolate do you see what i’m saying so it is literally like it is a chocolate coated candy the candiness is on the inside of it the chocolate is merely the wrapper in the vessel it’s like how gum is not paper it just comes wrapped in it so i believe that chocolate is candy we literally just switched chocolate candy chocolate is a is a very important chocolate is a part of chocolate is under the umbrella of candy i don’t i don’t know i don’t know i don’t know i don’t think so maggie chocolate maggie help me help we we tangled ourselves in a nut you ever see like two kids on a soccer field where they keep kicking the ball but they’re kicking at the same time so they’re stubbing their toes against each other uh that’s where we ended up here i’m in an entanglement which is not a bad thing yeah i think that’s totally fine and when it comes down to it chocolate like it’s just a plant yes it’s a plant this is a plant it’s a fruit chocolate fruit chocolate fruit it’s got seeds yep it’s a fruit you can make a chocolate salad yum you can make a chocolate fountain you can make you know fun fondue fondue just chocolate soup but i think we should find out exactly what our answer is it’s chocolate candy on three one two three no wow we just completely switched chocolate isn’t candy i mean i think most people actually agree with that by the numbers or some polls taken um but i think the larger umbrella of candy does encompass many different things and really chocolate it’s in your own heart and it’s what you take away from children so you can get clout from jimmy kimmel and nicole that now that’s the real candy well nicole was that was your stomach rumbling oh my god i’m hungry she speaks oh are you hungry nicole drink this red bull it’ll help i’m so embarrassed nicole we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions or like dress [Music] all right starting off with darby rose blood what cool names cool name cheese is the best dairy product uh yeah i love cheese i could eat cheese every day but i’m like doesn’t tolerate but i still eat it every day no one eats more cheese than lactose intolerance that’s true which is wild mix it would be like if someone’s like i’m allergic to peanuts but i can’t stop sucking down peanut butter like i stabbed myself the thing is we’re not allergic we’re intolerant so like we can take an enzyme called lactate i don’t know lactate i just eat lactate pills and then i just go down to the cheese town i i i dig on cheese i think cheese culture is very fun i respect the fact that people have put millions of hours of work on it i don’t know dude i eat so much yogurt you eat yogurt i had a lot of yogurt i’m going to because you’re healthy well not healthy but like yeah you’re my own version of you’re you’re like conscious of like your fat content you consume yeah i think i just i grew up with too many bags of shredded mexican blend jeans which with the anti-caking agent on it yeah and so i think i just have this like uh kind of aversion to like people piling shredded like low quality cheese on things that said i love american cheese so who am i to talk i love cream cheese i love all cheese uh and then give me some ooh dude we got some gruyere in the fridge i know we did burrito for lunch okay noriana dot e dot j beignets are the best pastry to ever be created interesting so uh i disagree i’m a big fan of cheese danishes you are a baby’s danish speaking of cheese i love cheese danishes yeah my favorite copenhagen uh pastry in culver city uh never been to are you sure it’s you mean rock wagner no no no no dude copenhagen i’ve never been oh my god so uh they their whole thing is they just make like dope danishes and all different varieties they are so light and flaky and they’re actually like danes who have it oh fantastic cute little storefront um when shout out to uh one of my fav my favorite og food podcaster zach brooks at midtown lunch he uh brought renee reczepi to uh to copenhagen pastry which is funny because if renee zepi came to town he was doing his podcast called food is the new rock and most people you know when hosting rene rezapi would try and take him to like vesper teen or one of the fanciest restaurants in l.a and zach was like yo we’re going to this danish little shop in culver city and renee zeppe was like yeah it’s not the best but it’s not every danish it’s the best in denmark so it’s great that’s yeah what a nice guy how many costco danishes uh that said no i’m a big fan of fried dough beignets not my favorite form of fried dough per se i do man krillers when they’re good those are good curlers are really good fried like choux pastry oh yeah let’s get beignets i don’t find meaningfully different enough from american donuts and i think i just prefer american donuts i don’t like powdered sugar i like a glaze that makes sense yeah so beignets for me not the best but fried dough in general yup at andrea twin two croutons are just thick crackers that’s just factually inaccurate croutons are bread they’re bread toasted bread crackers are unleavened croutons are leavened i see what you’re saying functionally speaking sure also if you eat crackers and snacks people look at you weird when you just eat croutons as snacks which i believe is very unfair do you know that my mom wouldn’t buy crackers so like i would eat croutons yeah in place of crackers like just have handfuls of caesar dude they’re so good just dip in croutons and dressing that’s one that’s called a salad no i would just take them and you utilize them as a cracker yeah which i don’t dip it in dressing it’s like a salsa it’s like chips and salsa croutons and caesar dressing and eating them you didn’t do that as a kid no caesar dressing i would dip it in cream cheese i think no that makes sense i have more cheese more cheese give me the cheese every every single one of these is gonna have to do with cheese i’m gonna tell you right now okay skyler underscores sue herland says captain morgan with mountain dew tastes like cream soda because i gotta try it out to find out maggie maggie get the captain maggie um i have drank this exact drink it’s like captain morgan spiced dark rum and it does taste like cream soda i think it’s the sensation that we were talking about yesterday where you tasted some sort of extract-y thing and you were like this tastes like vanilla what was that it was the key lime tequila and i was like i don’t think it actually tastes like vanilla i think it tastes like that potent chemical the vanillin or castorium extract yeah that they put in all extracts that just give it this like weird heady aroma that people often associate with things like cream soda or vanilla and so i think you just get the alcohol combined with the mountain dew artificial flavor chemicals and i think your mind reads it as cream soda where what you’re really tasting is just like bizarre olifactory confusion um that said uh crack dark captain does captain morgan make kraken i don’t know i’ve had cracking i’ve had crap i drank so much kraken mixed with like squirt everyone did do you remember ruby red squirt no there was a red score called ruby red squirt and i’ve been able to find it in a long time and i miss ruby red squirt it’s your stomach crumbling again no push through i need i need a i need a snack i need some food get some cruise i need some croutons can we hey can we for the podcast can we have like a bowl of emergency croutons just in the center of the table i’m hungry okay also to to be clear this is the first time we’re recording at 9 30 a.m instead of 12 30 and no one knows how it happened we all just showed up and we’re like yo are you like do someone have a meeting later why are we recording early and everyone’s just like i don’t know it showed up on the calendar so we’re all here so that explains nicole’s eating habits so embarrassed oh this is i agree with this paul along the watchtower great name name great name butter pecan pancake syrup is where it’s at maple syrup is trash i don’t agree maple syrup is trash butter pecan pancake syrup they have it at ihop oh it’s one of the things i was thinking i’m like wait a second i’ve i’ve definitely seen that somewhere but i didn’t know where yeah and i don’t think it’s like a common thing at all and again it is just pure artificial flavor extracts and it is so freaking good it tastes like the ice cream yeah ihop has i believe is it boysenberry strawberry old-fashioned maple in butter pecan berry i don’t know the the sour syrups i mean i i eat so much frozen blueberry syrup on things in the morning yeah just because you sure do yeah yeah yeah all our pans are stained blue and purple in the kitchen because it butter pecan pancakes here fire i hop fire do you hear that it’s unreal are you okay i don’t know what’s wrong with me i don’t know i’m sorry i’m so embarrassed i don’t know what to do okay amana naveed forks are the ultimate utensil i’m gonna say spoon bruh i like a spoon bruh fork how can it be the ultimate utensil when the spork exists oh yeah spork store extraction you can’t you can’t eat no damn soup with no fork you know you know what i’m gonna say what quick transition knife knife is very important because you can stab and eat with a knife as you do a fork i do that i feel like an old pioneer yeah you can peel stuff you can uh stabby stab you can cut into little pieces if you get a special kind of knife that has a little divot maybe you can use it as a spoon if you’re really desperate i i think forks are actually the worst utensil yeah i agree i don’t i hardly use forks for literally anything i just use them to whip up my eggs when you get mad yeah that’s true use a whisk it whisks better utensils i think the ultimate it all depends what kinds of foods you’re eating if you’re someone that eats like a chicken breast with like you know a big old hunk of broccoli that you have to like cut into and stab sure but like all my meals are like either sandwiches soup or wet they’re either wets or sandwiches you stupify your meals yeah every meal is stewified with like either if it’s like freaking i don’t know whataburger sauce or yogurt something happens where it’s just wet food gotta get me stupified rock anyone disturb stupefied oh that’s a reference no one’s gonna get anyways no the the filipino spoon fork combo that’s where it’s at you use the fork to push the stew and rice onto the spoon and then you eat it shout out to our penie and pinoy audience yes we love you at aman naveed again the tick tock cloud bread isn’t really bread correct correct correct correct correct but it gets into a semantic issue where it’s like if you’re using it as bread you know does it technically could you be allowed to call it that also if you say cloud bread before that does the modifier of cloud mean that you understand it’s not a bread you know it’s like growing something like a radish tortilla it’s like obviously we know it’s not tortilla you just cut the radish real thing yeah yeah yeah and stuff around it um but yeah cloud bread sucks is the main thing yeah it’s gross i don’t understand except for the recipe that nicole made on mythical kitchen that’s great i forgot you did that you’re mean it was good it was egg bread i believe i believe you okay strong beer 75 great names these names are just so impressive to me finishing salts and crunchy salts on top are disgusting this is ruda’s head i agree with him i agree with him god are you season your damn food you’re kidding me i’ve had dishes ruined by finishing salt are you oh my god the i have at least 25 finishing salts at home we tried like i put flaky salt malt and salt all that no season your damn food there’s nothing wrong with seasoning your food but a little pop of that salty beautiful crystalline composition is like next level it depends on the dish like if you like i i do love a little bit of flaky salt on like bread and unsalted butter like i prefer unsalted butter with a flaky salt on it but anything else nicole is physically holding her stomach trying to will it to stop grumbling she’s crying and cackling but no i’ve had so many dishes where like it tastes like you’re eating sand because there’s so much finishing no i love finishing salt dude nah i think it’s beautiful i think it’s expansive i love i’m a hoe for finishing salts all right at i think this is french try this love this try this grilled cheese sandwich with bacon slash chicken poured with red enchilada sauce so yummy i believe it uh yeah yeah that to me sounds better than grilled cheese and tomato soup yeah just dip it in a hot enchilada sauce i think that’s really good a little kind of burnt flavor on it i think that sounds delicious you do a good enchilada sauce you gotta fry the chilies and oil and kind of burn them mm-hmm yeah that’s very true i just buy the jarred stuff and i just uh cross my fingers and pray to god i was in like an hour uber ride with a a woman who like ran me through her entire enchilada sauce recipe and she’s like nice sells enchiladas on the side and she’s like trying to bottle her sauce and it sounded really dope and she like learned from her like grandma like in mexico man i was just enthralled and then she told me a lot about her divorce all right the last one of the day the black okay i’m sorry why are these names so cool the black luchador 9001 says strawberry jalapeno jelly slaps it’s a baller combo with anything you use jelly for eh it’s good on a cheeseboard it’s not that sweet yeah it’s i think it’s got its uses i think for me at some point i love spicy food so i grew up eating it but at some point i realized like not everything got to be spicy i do like the little the grassiness the jalapeno that does kind of cut through the strawberry shout out to tech guy from smosh tim as featured in the tech guy from smosh tim video on smosh he brought us some really delicious jalapeno strawberry jelly that i do love but i mean if i’m like midday treat just one of pb j i think i’m skipping the jalapeno me too i think there’s a time and place for this on a cheeseboard wait hold on one one more time for 87 sun dried tomatoes or just italian flavored raisins yeah i see no lies ah i don’t see any lies that’s just true the italians eat them like raisins too they’re just they give them to kids on halloween houses that’s so funny that’s a good one i agree that i agree and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles 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