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host and commentator celebrated for her star power with the wwe host of her own podcast oral sessions with renee paquette and can even be spotted in a 2010 kelly clarkson music video she’s also an ontario native and the author of a new cookbook messy in the kitchen which makes her the perfect guest for today’s conversation renee welcome to the pod hi guys i’m so excited to talk some food with you hell yeah let’s do it how do we do in the interview we we ask our guests to rate the bio of them out of 10 just so we can get better at it because we’re always looking to learn yeah a new thing i’m doing it sounded good to me i feel like you checked off most of the you know there’s i was also in a tom green music video oh wow yeah really cool he made music yeah check the or you like it so far um yeah this one was called teacher suck and i can’t i can’t repeat the lyrics or i’ll get kicked off the show makes sense makes sense okay so you are uh what i would say famously canadian yeah is that inaccurate i would say so i’m like proudly canadian i think all canadians are like obnoxiously proud like i noticed when i when i like text my mom something she doesn’t really care she just responds with a canadian flag for some reason it’s like so weird but i do think there’s like a real sense of uh patriotic proudness it comes from uh from being a canadian i feel like it’s a nicer sense of patriotism than we have in america too you know what i mean like it’s i don’t know maybe it’s patronizing for me to say as an american to a canadian but it seems almost like quaint like i hear the canadian national anthem and i don’t mean to start this but i hear that i’m like oh that’s adorable it’s a nice it’s a nice anthem yeah it is a sweet anthem it is a nice answer yeah it’s nice because you know what we start off in english and then it deviates into french and then we circle back around the english so like everybody’s covered and taken care of um but um i became an american in march um i don’t think i know the lyrics to the anthem yet i should probably get on to our yeah when you’re not in elementary school when do you have to stand up to sing it right like exactly i’m past that point so um i’ll work on i’ll wait till my kid goes to school and she can recite it back to me that’s smart that’s right all right speaking of being proudly canadian are you very proud of canadian food because nicole and i are for lack of a better word like dumb i say like um speak for yourself i’m like kind of smart we don’t know a ton about canadian food we don’t get exposed to it especially being in california and so are you very passionate about it what are your favorite things about it i’m incredibly passionate about canadian food i miss canadian food i long for canadian food i feel like there was more of a thread of canadian dishes throughout the process of me putting my cookbook together that yeah i didn’t even realize how much it had kind of like seeped into my dna i mean obviously growing up in canada but when you grow up in canada you don’t think of the food as just being canadian but now living in america i’m like oh yeah we do have all these dishes um of course first and foremost the number one being poutine everybody loves them some poutine uh if you’re going to be um you know stumbling out of a bar at 3am in toronto there’s uh there’s many late night poutineers where you can have like so many different toppings um there’s bad poutines out there as well don’t get me wrong uh the putina mcdonald’s that i had when i was i’ve only been to quebec and that was when i was 19. i went with my best friend and we went because we could legally drink yes in quebec at 18 you can there yeah you can get wild in quebec oh it’s great we had such a great time uh yeah no he got kicked in the head at a strip club and he got a concussion it was his by who by the dancer she was very athletic and she had a long heal on notoriously the best strip clubs in the world are in montreal so a little the more you know banner can go up there yeah go out support your local sex performers folks uh be polite tip well yes and we had a great time in quebec oh what the interesting thing let’s jump into canadian strip clubs um i didn’t realize that it was very different because there are no one dollar bills no our smallest denomination of bills is a five dollar bill so unless you’re gonna like flick a toonie at somebody which is our two dollar coin i mean those kind of have a little bit of weight behind them you don’t want to like you know flick a tuning at somebody and put a mark on these beautiful bodies of course not so slip a five dollar bill which is kind of equivalent when you do you know you um you look at the what’s the conversion of the money from american to canadian i think you’re it kind of balances out in the end anyways i remember being like a little sadder looking at my bank accounts going like ah crap a little bit more than i wanted to i’ve only been to canada once i went to calgary for a wedding calgary is really pretty it was gorgeous very green and apparently there’s a lot of cowboys there didn’t see not one cowboy oh let’s see the calgary stampeders yeah i did go but i did go to banff and i had actually one of the best pizzas i’ve ever had at a bison pizza oh it was incredible you know what i’m a big supporter of bison i cook bison a lot my husband loves bison so he kind of got me into that but yeah cooking with bison is incredible i mean who just you don’t just need like a lean beef give me some bison instead same same thing mm-hmm hondo people say bison has like a lot of roots in uh the bodybuilding community i mean your husband’s a pro wrestler yeah yeah is is he eating bison just to stay jacked i guess so yeah because it’s like a good lean meat when you want a different alternative and you don’t just want like ground turkey or chicken breast or just having like you know some other kind of like lean red meat bison is definitely the way to go so we we have it at home quite often however we are about to go up to my father-in-law’s house and i think he’s giving us some deer so i have to know how to cook deer soon hell yeah oh yeah you pound it out real thin it’s a lean meat can’t do a long cook tried to do uh venison awesome didn’t work hold on back to the adhd adhds fire into our tour food versus america okay yes what we’ve done here we have compiled a list of what we believe to be some of the top canadian foods and some of their top american counterparts and i think we can go through this list and just hash out a little debate about which has the most marriage so i’m glad you brought up poutine uh i would say the american version of poutine chili cheese fries chili cheese boo boo just immediately oh [ __ ] canada they call it canadian this is why it’s sorry it does not meet on the same playing field as poutine because poutine is all about the cheese curd it’s the curd you can’t just have shredded cheese that does not cut it in the poutine world you need to have like the squeaky cheese you call it i mean you know that uh that poutine cheese if it’s you know you can use like the courage from wisconsin or something like that like that will put you in the right wheelhouse but it has to be those curds that get like those big chunky pull apart stringy cheese bits smothered in that hot brown gravy i why the hell can we not get cheese curds in america because i don’t know i mean like you said you have the wisconsin curds that’s the only thing but even then like no grocery store very hard to find it’s a delightful product it is they’re lovely lovely uh culver’s the fast food chain that’s from the midwest heard of it they make fried cheese curds um at their thing i think a and w also does that the fast food chain oh hell yeah we cannot cause we’ve struggled we’ve tried to make poutine on the show uh and we’ll like you know use some low moisture mods that we cut into cubes it’s not the same and we’ll like kind of even lie and be like um cheese curd like product and people those aren’t cheese curds it’s a cheese curd yeah it has to be the curd um when i was working on my cookbook and i i had to obviously put a poutine in there i have like my what’s called like the regular ass poutine and then uh and then i had the clam chowder poutine because i wanted like a hybrid of like i couldn’t just do like one poutine i had to have two um so i did a clam chowder version but i could actually find cheese curds at my local grocery store and i was living in las vegas at the time so they can be found you can track them down nicole do you have any particular affinity for chili cheese fries so i got some thoughts let me tell you the truth i would prefer to eat poutine and poutine okay well no no you said it like beautifully so oh my gosh there i go oh yeah putin is like it’s like a sexier food than sexy cheese it’s brown gravy what do you mean it’s sexy gravy is hot and sexy and velvety and salty yeah i like i like gravy fries and cheese like that makes sense to me i’ve never been a chili cheese dog or fry girl never like like knuckles deep in like a plate of fries like that i don’t like that putin is much better yeah okay honestly i’m not in canada i’m with canada you’re a team don’t defect to canada once and suddenly you’re a candidate wait are you are you anti-poutine i actually am uh this is a thing so many people think that i would love poutine i and i have an affinity for all the foods that are like poutine i love fries smothered in things you would think but for me there’s something about the brown gravy the cheese curd and the fries the flavors aren’t complementary enough and i and i don’t even think that all foods have to have complementary flavors but to me it’s just like fatty salty on fatty salty on fatty salty and so we we both grew up in southern california and we have what are called asada fries okay where you go to a taqueria and they top they top the fries with like the shredded yellow cheese that just melts into plastic they top with carne asada guac tons of salsa and for me that’s just like it’s it’s exciting you’re talking about a sexy food nicole okay sexy food well i didn’t even think about that but now that you did that i guess putin is number two and the carne satisfies her numero uno and then chili cheese fries can suck it i only had carne asada fries once and i got them from del taco where does that rank oh rough i think you gotta come to l.a and try it with us that’s the mcdonald’s that’s the mcdonald’s puts in of uh like california honestly the way that i look at it though is like i’ve never met a fry specific like a potato or a fry that i don’t like so no matter which way you dress it up i’m going to eat it and enjoy it to some degree but like i was saying earlier there’s the poutine aries where you can add like montreal smoked meat to it or you can add you can add those those like typical nacho flavors on top of it add the guacamole the sour cream um i don’t know cut up a hot dog throw it in there add more salty fatty things on there there the options are endless but i am more of a traditionalist when it comes to my poutines i i respect that and i think because the french and british influence like in canada they take more care with their fries too that’s nice which i really believe in uh we should we should get the pronunciation thing out of the way because i launched in a full eight-hour rabbit hole oh my gosh on twitter asking for people from quebec uh from france and from america to pronounce the word poutine yes in their native like french case and you made me listen to it with you for a short period of time because i had no idea that in quebec they pronounce it very hard like putin yes and then in in uh an american-born french speaker says poutine pretty hard and then in france it’s somewhere in between and so do i just say putin i just say poutine because if i’m saying it’s like calm down i’m not i’m not a french-speaking woman um i mean i do speak a little bit of french but it is not my native tongue uh so i i could slap a little putin on there but like who am i trying to impress so i just keep it poutine in toronto if you’re ordering it you just ask for a poutine if i was in quebec and i would like a couple cocktails in i’d call it putin i would be willing to give i mean canada poutine is so iconic yeah you got to have canada to win on poutine i’m going to give it to him because they deserve it thank you all right we’re not keeping an official track but let’s say it’s uh one nothing um we reference canadian bacon the movie where john candy wages war on canada great film i love john kennedy i think it got like barred from release in america did it there was something about it it grossed like zero dollars uh anyways go watch that movie sometimes canadians like we’re big on like our own little inside jokes and either people just don’t get it sometimes we just do it to laugh at ourselves i think that movie is quintessentially that i love that uh also the greatest piece of canadian media to ever come out uh one of the greatest sports movies of all time is goon oh you talked about goons so much this guy is good i am absolutely obsessed with the the jay baer shell uh anyways canadian bacon versus american bacon ray can you enlighten us on what the hell canadian bacon actually is because we have our canadian bacon in america and i don’t think it has anything to do with the bacon account it’s different so when you when you get um you call it pea meal bacon um so it’s p meal bacon in canada we don’t call it just canadian bacon it’s it has like this like cornmeal crust around it it’s a it’s just a leaner it’s more like a slice of ham it’s like if you it was just like a ham bacon hybrid but it’s leaner than a regular bacon it’s not stripy like regular bacon um and it’s it’s more cylindrical did i say that right yeah yeah yeah thank you um but uh yeah it’s it still is like that salty you want to heat that baby up it’s great on a breakfast sandwich like it is breakfast sandwich friendly it’s already an english muffin shape you’ve already got that circle down she’s really selling it it’s great no it’s very very good um but yeah it does kind of throw me off because i find if i order like canadian bacon or buy it at the grocery store when i’m in america it’s just that cam kind of which like yeah it’s fine but i want that pea meal with that little bit of that cornmeal crust on the outside i never knew i needed a cornmeal crust on my cured pork products yeah i’m like i don’t know if it’s just because i’m hungry and i haven’t eaten any food outside of the weird protein bars that we have in the kitchen sorry about that but now it’s okay wait you hosted you host a food podcast and you’re slamming protein bars yeah yo there’s there’s cinnamon toast crunch protein bars though okay yeah so it’s like a little foodie you know like a little tree like p meal bacon sounds delicious i just want to eat that with between two slices of bread also what we call canadian bacon in america one we have a propensity to just take whole animals and like shove them in a blender and then like pipe their meats into little molds i mean we kind of do too but yeah the canadian bacon our female bacon is more of a purest form there’s actually a really great market um in toronto called the st lawrence market and they do these like insane uh canadian bacon breakfast sandwiches actually anthony bourdain uh when he did uh one of his episodes in toronto he went there and had it um and i’m sure the lines are still very very long to get these st lawrence market breakfast sandwiches because they’re just incredible maggie what’s our show’s travel budget yeah do we have a travel cause like the travel channel budget do we have 60 bucks okay we’ll take a greyhound to reno perfect i am not getting on a greyhound with you why it’s going to be right do you have you mentioned the term stripey bacon earlier is that popular in canada as well oh yeah of course what do you call it just bacon just regular bacon bacon but then so pmale bacon you don’t use the term canadian bacon at all female bacon yeah it’s i’m like i’m not i feel like i hope i’m not lying but yeah last i remember being in canada ordering breakfast there’s been a minute but it’s like your options are like bacon turkey bacon sausage pea meal bacon so yeah it would be female bacon we don’t call it canadian bacon it doesn’t yeah that would be like redundant yeah we should say renee is not uh a spokesperson for all of canada canadian culture is not a monolith of course you know diversity of opinion diversity opinion but she’s here oh wait i will wave that flag but the second somebody comes at me for it i’d be like oh okay maybe i was wrong i don’t know here you go yeah um i i love streaky bacon as some people call it that’s a british thing right yeah yeah i do like like american style bacon but something about peanut bacon sounds really attractive yeah and i want to eat a lot of it i’m thinking about the taste of streaky bacon in my mouth right now and thinking about the taste of this fictional mythical pmeal bacon that i’ve never had and i want that female bacon in my mind could you imagine just like being a person that doesn’t eat bacon that makes me so sad there’s like so many people that do that like what are ruse of a life no way yeah i know we are both disappointing our jewish parents by eating bacon all the time yeah so you’re preaching to the sorry all of us listeners we love you can you guys see it that’s the female bacon can you see the cornmeal on the outside i sure do it looks like a honey baked ham like uh fell into a pile of dried leaves she’s thick yeah i’m willing to give away into this female bacon mostly because renee’s so passionate about it yeah i think i didn’t even know i was passionate about it until you brought it up and here we are you struck a corner i love it 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almost like a little bit of like that ketchup chip knot i’m glad that you said all dress instead of ketchup as well like i love you you’re going back and forth but all dress chips to me are my jam i can find them occasionally at grocery stores here in america as well you might be able to get them in california because i know i could find them in las vegas no problem um yeah it’s almost like i can’t think of what that other like je ne sais quoi is that makes the all dress the all dressed because i think on like the front of the package it’s like there’s like a vinegar bottle uh maybe like some worcestershire shots um beautiful pronunciation thank you very much very elegant thank you um it kind of covers the spectrum of flavors which is like very pleasing on the palette i feel like your tongue is walking away very happy like you don’t just have like a all dressed chip and yes we like ruffles makes the best one but when you’re in canada i was gonna ask there’s all the other brands that have them as well whether it’s like humpty dumpty i don’t think lays does an all-dress chip um but we have another brand called president’s choice which is um done at loblaws it’s like their own brands like their own grocery store but they have the best flavors as well but they do like loaded versions of everything so you can get like loaded all dressed so it’s like really packing a punch wow chips are my passion chips are my passion one time we had um old dutch ketchup chips here and it like ruined me for like all of it my mouth is watering thinking about that because i remember the flavor of that so vividly the the old dutch they’re the best i’m like salivating yeah the glands are moving right now me too i’m like i feel like i’m drooling right now the yeah the old dutch ketchup chips are incredible hot fire yeah i think renee said it best when she mentioned the barbecue crust with the salt and vinegar like that’s what yeah the all dress reminds me of a little bit yeah but with some more savory aromatics in there i’ve had a few all dressed chips and i like it but i’m just not a salt and vinegar chip person never have that never will be people try to get me to like it i just don’t like it the amount of times i’ve seen you eat pickles from the jar strawberry that’s because i love sodium vinegar oh my god honestly bloat my face up with all the soda i don’t care i want it all yeah you just need like a salt lick like a horse just kind of hanging from a little beanie in front of you yeah yeah it was all dressed chip flavor salt lick i could easily be convinced yeah let’s say you’re trying to go in on a new business venture especially if i have like one glass of wine give me all the sodium oh my gosh i love sodium it’s so funny but i i don’t know like my heart and soul just enjoys the flavor of a barbecue chip more i could eat i could eat a bag of barbecue chips i don’t know if i could eat a bag of all dressings interesting this is where we flip what’s your favorite brand of barbecue um kettle yeah kettle brand because they’re thick and they have a lot of foldies and i love a good flavor those are like a mesquite barbecue aren’t they i think they have like a regular barbecue one too but whatever it is the orange bag i think is like the danky oh wait look there was a new barbecue that i just had hold on i gotta look up what it was i think it’s the bourbon one i think you’re right kettlebrand is one of those few brands that i’m like i love this i want to make out with kettlebrand chips the entity is how much i love those freaking chips they just are so much better than every other competitor yeah the backyard barbecue is the dankness they also have a bourbon barbecue and now they recently have a uh classic barbecue as well they’re also have you guys had there’s the cardi b lace chips that are um cheddar barbecue and they are awesome they’re very good really good snacks right yeah they’re awesome yeah what do you feel josh are you bbq on this one i think all dress to me it strikes the perfect balance between the amount of sour the amount of sodium and the amount of onion powder that i need in a chip and i wish i wish all dressed were more popular in america they should be i think we need to make that peanut bacon all dressed chips and we need cheese curds ready and available let’s cross everything across the border let’s ship them all down my mom will make us all care packages hell yeah get your mom on the show where’s your mom at right now what are you doing she just went back to canada so she’s uh she’s busy all right moving on we got both canada and the us obviously very multiple multicultural places and every canadian person i’ve talked to which is to say two there’s that dude early pete on tick tock we love early pete okay um and then that’s it he’s the only canadian i know uh but donaire apparently is very popular and the thing that is uniquely canadian in the way that you know certain taquerias are uniquely american and californian uh in the way they’ve been influenced so renee can you tell us a little bit about donaire so donaire um it is very popular in canada but it’s more popular on the east coast of canada so if you’re going through new brunswick if you’re in nova scotia you’re going to find like beautiful amazing donaire on like every street or like every corner um i i i’m not from the east coast so i can’t speak to it as passionately as i can about the all-dressed chips and poutine um our big thing in toronto is like the street meat like our hot dogs crush a new york hot dog hot dog they’re they’re very very good but i mean yeah with the donaire uh yeah just give me that shaved meat that’s hanging in the window slap a little tzatziki on there uh it’s it’s excellent it’s very very good we need are there is it primarily turkish turkish immigrants i know donaire’s a turkish word i think so but i don’t know this is one that i’m not confident to uh to really go to bat for and say it’s full origin story i’m not sure yeah well it’s interesting like if you come to california or los angeles specifically a majority of the sushi restaurants are owned by korean immigrants who have like really put their own spin on it and it’s kind of created a you know microculture within itself i’m willing to talk about though toronto hot dogs versus la hot dogs cause la hot dogs or something we’re both very powerful danger dogs what is what is the typical toronto hot dog like what makes it what makes it tick um there so here’s the thing i didn’t again i did not know that toronto hot dogs were superior until i lived in new york and everyone’s like oh new york hot dog charlotte get some nathan’s nathan’s can suck a big one am i allowed to say that on this show yeah you can say suck a big one you can use as many gross sexual euphemisms as possible can’t say the f word great um so i went and had nathan’s i was like on coney island i’m like oh this is gonna be great and it was like this like rinky dink little hot dog it was like steamed in a tiny little bun that it didn’t fit in i want hot dog to bun ratio to be like ballpark style i want it to be the like sort of a mixture between like a bratwurst and a hot dog i want that to meet in the middle and i feel like that’s what toronto street dogs do for you interesting what’s what’s the topping structure like what what it typically goes on like in chicago if you put ketchup on a hot dog you get stoned in the streets like what’s the toronto so i i’m sort of a traditionalist and that i just want ketchup and mustard but it’s like a regular um hot dog cart where they’ve got all the fix in there whether you want to add some banana pepper some chopped onions some sauerkraut um i sometimes don’t even mind a little cheese like just like throw a little cheese whiz on that bad boy hell yeah i like that quite a bit too but i’m not opposed to adding like a little bit of spice too maybe like some little like pickled jalapeno chunks like nothing too crazy but something that’s like a little bit more of a mild little snap to it i would like that nicole you gonna give her the run down on the la danger dog yeah is it a dodger dog or a danger dog because i say danger dog no dodger dog is specifically at the dodgers stadium doctor dogs are the worst hot dog in one mlb to the world they are zero percent beef so dodger dogs are terrible i always go to jeff’s gourmet which is a little kosher hot dog section but that’s just me because i don’t want i don’t want all the dates the dodger dog yeah but no the like the our version of a hot dog cart so after you go out clubbing or to a concert there’s like a bunch of carts outside and then um it’s a bacon wrapped hot dog with a bunch of peppers and onions that are uh like being sauteed on the griddle in the bacon in the bacon fat and then it’s a beautiful bun that they just crack open and i think mayo ketchup mustard and then sometimes they put on like jalapenos yeah the grill the grilled jalapeno to me is they only serve it with either a whole grilled jalapeno or sometimes you can tell where the vendor is from based on the chili that you’re using you’re the one who brought this up too so i i was yeah i was uh eating a street dog the other day and they had like chilero which are like the the softer yellow peppers they’re still really spicy and they’re just cooking those in the bacon fat some will do serranos uh and it’s like you know people don’t think of hot dogs and they think of la but for me i’m like listen i’ve had all the street carts in new york i don’t care they’re all boiling the same dog water yeah yeah and then you get this just all the vegetables cooked in the bacon fat like you said you leave any event in la and they’re just 12 carts mobbing around they’re all just cooking them on a big sheet pan and to me la hot dogs are one of the most underrated foods and they have roots in the sonoran dog wait what’s the sonoran dog oh give it the rental so a sonoran dog um it actually is more popular in arizona in cities like tucson but it comes from northern mexico they take a bolillo roll which is like a big soft french roll and they cut it in the middle then they put a scoop of pinto beans on the bottom then the hot dog goes on top of that and then it’s just no holds barred uh forgive the wrestling terminology when it comes to the toppings it’s like cabbage uh pico de gallo salsa verde avocado crema wow crushed chips right yeah i think first chips are more of a south american thing my bad but it’s i want to put crunch chips on it now i’m down it sounds great yeah so there’s a really great um there’s a great hot dog stand in vancouver and i don’t know if they’re just in bc or not but it’s called jaffa dog and they’re japanese hot dogs and they are insane so you get them with like the tobiko you get um some sesame seeds crushed on there um some of the um the seed uh seaweed what am i trying to say the seaweed flakes whatever those cause uh yeah you get like the nori crushed on there but these are kobe beef hot dogs and they’ve got you know a bunch of different toppings even if you want to have like the crunchy tempura on top of it like you’re killing me these hot dogs we gotta get hot dogs for lunch oh my god i dream about these hot dogs they are so damn good i need a freaking hot dog so damn good oh i forgot about those until we just started talking about them and now i’m like how can i get a flight to bc or right now all right as we approach the end of uh this feudal war between america and canada let’s do like a little lightning round i’m just gonna start like listing things off um we didn’t come up with a good verses with this but we just don’t know what the hell on nanaimo is what do we put up against it almond joy screw it mounds oh i’ve got to go mounds i like mounds i think they’re great most people hate them i think they’re great i love them uh real maple syrup versus mrs butterworth come on get real real makeup give me the give me the corn syrup no sometimes i need the corn syrup because of the way it like seeps into the pancake or the waffle i need it sometimes the maple syrup just like slops off and i’m like what the f is going on yeah it can be a little thin and runny if it’s not done right like i don’t want a runny maple syrup but uh having like like actually cracking out like going to like a maple tree and like dropping that and like some snow and getting some maple candies now okay talking that’s a flex maple candies that was a big slice huge flag i will get i want to try that so bad like right now that sounds like so much fun it’s really nice tim tim hortons versus duncan tim corton’s all day long no question they made a buffalo chicken donut and i wanted to try it because it looked gross and i wanted it oh my god i didn’t get that i want to try that cheesies versus cheetos what’s the cheesy oh yeah cheesies are our cheetos same thing um god i didn’t even think of them as being different so that being said i’ve not had a cheesy in a long time so i’m gonna have to go cheetos on this one because i’m i just bought those not long ago and man did they hold up i’ve tried it cheesy actually jen who was from canada brought them and they were good yeah she was like cheesier than cheetos cheesies are really good she was from edmonton if i said yeg does that mean anything yay i don’t know what that is i don’t know i thought it was just playing for someone i hope i didn’t do a slur i don’t know uh we cross our fingers now all right finally drake versus ice cube oh drake send that one drake no what okay wait wait i have what i bought celine dion versus lady gaga lady gaga nice yes yeah yeah yeah crazy no no celine she she won eurovision whoo celine dion she was a eurovision i don’t know isn’t she from switzerland originally she was born in canada i don’t know the hell i’m talking about you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about man i feel like there might be some truth to that i feel like there’s something with celine dion in eurovision maybe i don’t know what that whole story is but maybe i’m also having like a little buyer’s remorse on just like instantly throwing out drake i think i want to go ice cube i do love me some drizzy i do uh i gotta say today nicole it was a good day see [Music] hey hot doggers we wanted to tell you about our exciting upcoming event mythicon heck yeah we do mythical is our first ever immersive weekend experience with the mythical kitchen rhett and link and a big old bunch of the mythical crew there’s a carnival a dance party live podcast it’s gonna be huge it’s on october 28th to the 30th in austin texas for one weekend only so you don’t want to miss it check out mythicontickets.com for ticket availability event details and any updates tickets are on sale now including packages chalk full of super exclusive merch and a very special sunday brunch with your favorite mythical crew members and we all know your favorite mythical crew member is nicole over to mythicontickets.com right now to check out availability [Music] hi nicole and renee we’ve heard what you and i have to say now it’s time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the twitterverse it’s time for a segment we call opinions are like casseroles eh [Music] i threw in a little a there because people from canada and they also say canada not canada they say canada depends on where you’re from but yeah that’s like that’s like a west coast canada thing canada yeah it’s kind of i’ve heard it i know what you’re talking about am i erroneous for saying bud after no that’s accurate yeah the bud is very accurate i’m i’m bringing that to california that’s that’s the thing i want to import pmeal bacon and all right female bacon and a molson bud let’s go oh god i drank so many molsons and i tried to order a lebat blue and people laughed at me because they’re like that’s not real canadian be there bud gotta get a molson’s gotta get a molson’s extra drive all right we got at unknown and ironful i don’t know if it’s a hot take but a major food type that’s uniquely canadian is chinese food it’s interesting interesting so i mean i feel like canada is so multicultural um especially i mean i can really mostly speak for toronto because that’s where i’m from um but toronto’s chinatown is amazing um there’s just so many great shops kensington markets right there so there’s like really cool like vintage clothes and really great food also um you know adjacent to that there’s a the vietnamese markets um where you they have like incredible fa that will like rock your world um but yeah i think like the late night chinese order for me there was one spot i’m gonna draw blank on the name of it but i would always order this um this sweet beef and it was like candied beef jerky almost and it was just incredible um sounds incredible i mean i love chinese food i don’t really care where it’s coming from i feel like you can’t really screw that up give me some really great noodles give me all of the carbs and again hit me with that sodium i love me some sodium all day yeah so i mean america has its own like chinese american food like orange chicken is the big west coast thing for sure that we all love but i’m staring at a dish right now uh on the old computer screen called quebec style chicken noodles and it appears to be soy sauce chicken and just straight up elbow macaroni oh i’ve never had that but also macaroni is a thing that’s a weird choice there yeah is that a is there any canadian link to the elbow macaroni not that i can think of very interesting i don’t know i mean i think when you just that seems like almost like a little lazy to me they’re like well i was gonna make mac and cheese but instead these are the ingredients that i have so i’m just kind of working with what i got and it tasted fine enough so they kept going with it respect the game respect the hustle all right next up embarlo 092 says montreal-style bagels are superior to new york style bagels in every way i think i’m gonna have to agree to this one montreal bagels i’m not really sure what makes them so much more superior um but i yeah last time i was in montreal i brought some home for my husband um they were actually stale by the time i got them to him after flying i think i went did like a tv show and then came home and we still smashed all of those bagels um something about the way montreal does it because you the thing too is like when you go to montreal like you have to have the montreal bagel but you also have to get the montreal smoked meat so if you can combine these worlds or hit up that fresh locks on a bagel in montreal and like you’ve never had anything better than that like that really thin sliced amazing smoked salmon ugh i’m so hungry right now i’ve been hearing a lot about montreal style bagels and it makes me want to just get on a plane i have a thought i have a thought process on why montreal style bagels the three foods that renee mentioned the bagels the lox and the smoked meat all ashkenazi jewish traditions yes speaking as an ashkenazi jew his family is from just the winters of latvia and all of our family dishes are like wait what was the word you said what was what what was the word you said before jewish uh ashkenazi like the the eastern like the eastern european jews what we would call like a white jew okay uh whereas nicole your family is i’m yeah i’m sephardic so i’m from iran okay that’s where you’re on okay you gotta separate the different kinds i get confused myself it’s confusing but my theory is that the ashkenazi jews uh felt so at home in montreal they were able to do their best work nice they were like this is cold it’s like latvia uh or russia siberia uh that i am in my natural environment to be able to make the best bagel possible with no distractions no distractions from flying to miami that’s a storyline i’m willing to buy i like that it sounds we’re just making up it sounds like that could have been how it went down that’s lovely picking up ignorant histories i love locks yeah i do so much locks in my house i go to costco and i go ham on the locks the most jewish thing you can do in southern california is buy a ton of locks from costco i grew up with it in the freezer dude locks is the best it’s funny because when i was pregnant um i got a sweet tooth and i never have a sweet tooth i am savory all day long because that used to be my regular like especially in a hotel if you can order up room a room service with locks like good luck that is that’s my kind of day starter uh but but then when i was pregnant i was like i guess i’ll just have like peanut butter or like i don’t know like a strawberry cream cheese it really made me deviate from my regular bagel wow yeah so i gotta i gotta get back in that the locks game back in the locks game oh yeah all right we got at kalades no idea what this means garlic fingers need to be worldwide how are they not renee how are garlic fingers not worldwide i i don’t i don’t know what that person’s talking about garlic fingers hmm we need to google garlic garlic fingers i mean that just seems to me like when you’re cooking and your hands smell like garlic for like two days after dude no okay so here we go this is an atlantic canadian dish uh it appears to be a type of turkish bread that they bake cheese and garlic onto and then they cut it into strips and they serve it with donaire and it’s called garlic fingers oh my god so it’s kind of like crazy bread but like better yeah yeah okay which is this reminds me of so we live in a really big armenian area in california and a lot there’s a lot of armenian does that are similar to pizza so a lot of armenian people open up pizza shops and they’ll call their traditional dish like kachapuri or ajarski is what it’s called and they’ll just be like breakfast pizza because it kind of has pizza dough and there’s an egg cracked on it great and so this is like yeah this is like the canadian version of breakfast that’s red yeah that sounds great i mean i’ve never had that but if i did i would lean way into it that sounds excellent we gotta go to st john’s yeah john city yep what’s saint john’s st john’s new brunswick it’s in the movie goon what’s up [Laughter] all right jason underscore mcm underscore says coffee crisp is the best candy bar and canada is being selfish hoarding it all to themselves i agree i love me some coffee crisps so my dad my dad comes down to visit from toronto uh every october we had to skip the last one or two due to kovid so he just came this past trip um but apparently you cannot get coffee crisp in toronto right now either so he actually had my uncle in edmonton bring me down so i have like giant cases of like full-sized coffee crisp but my dad normally brings it down at halloween so i get the little halloween size ones which then it’s called coffin crisp very oh my god that’s so cute i live for that stuff i live for that cheesy stuff it’s pretty cute i like it too i love that stuff too um so yeah coffee crisp is good to me because i’m not a huge chocolate person so it’s nice that it’s like these airy light you know lightly coffee flavored wafers with a very thin coating of chocolate so you’re not like being inundated with too much chocolate you ever had a coffee crisp i have no idea what these things are i don’t know but it’s happened and i’ve oh you want to know where i had it there’s a store in las uh it’s uh what is it called buzz what is that what is the candy store rocket scissors rocket fight rocket fizz has like international candies and stuff and they had coffee crisps and it was so nice i think you can maybe even get it at world market and they’re international oh that’s good to know i take on smarties and maltesers i get down with those the only ones oh my gosh smarties in forever mall teasers all day everyday i like the american whopper i don’t i could not taste the difference i love a nice malt ball uh i do too i yeah me too all right uh here’s rene part of the tagline of your book yeah here we go plug it me plugging it without even being brought up is drinking copiously so i’m curious about this because i have no idea what it means at pamela 7 and ice wine is phenomenal i don’t care if you claim you don’t like wine you’ll love it so ice wine will rock your world um it’s a what is ice cream it’s very very sweet wine um you usually buy it it comes in like smaller like skinnier bottles than regular wine um but it’s just it’s served cold obviously it’s iced wine but it’s very very sugary so you want to talk about getting like a gnarly hangover do not go too hard on the ice fine you gotta mix it up throw throw those molsons in there you gotta bounce back and forth do not stick to just one or uh you’ll have like a week-long hangover if you just stick to the ice wine yeah you hydrate with the molsons in between ice wines oh no yeah yeah yeah that’s so that’s that’s the move yeah is ice wine like super kind of like purple and almost tastes like a welch’s grape juice is it concord grape kind of yeah it’s it is yeah it’s very purpley um and just like so syrupy i’ve not had it in a long time remember it’s funny i was like so when we just moved to cincinnati i was like clearing out my fridge and i had had a bottle of ice wine in there from ages ago and i was like oh my gosh i should probably toss that now no one’s gonna be drinking that no one actually drinks ice wine either by the way like i don’t maybe like i don’t know i think if you like i think the people that are drinking like boxed wine at home might have ice wine as well well part of our jewish faith uh insists that we drink a product called mana chevettes which is it sounds like it’s basically ice wine it’s concord grape wine that is kosher and like literally since we’re seven years old you grow up like drinking little chips yeah the passover table uh we had the grape juice version you guys were partying oh yeah we were going hard so i feel like that’s more jewish canadian crossover we’re not so different renee you and i here we are last last uh opinion will be you underscore that’s underscore gross beaver tails are just churros that someone ran over with the truck [Laughter] beaver tails are fantastic um they are like i mean it’s a bear claw basically mm-hmm right before they’re like it’s like a squished like cinnamon roll or something kind of it’s like i’ve again i’ve not had a beaver tail in ages we used to go this sounds like very canadian but we would go to my aunt and uncles in ottawa and we would go skating on the rideau canal and when you’re skating on the redo canal you can stop because they’ve got beaver tails they’ve got like the little like huts set up along the way and it’s been probably two decades since i’ve done that um but that was probably the last time that i’ve had a beaver tail um but yeah it’s a it’s like a nice warm sugary pastry they’re very nice we call these elephant ears well but like uh they’re served at like state fairs in places where we didn’t grow up um like you like rhett and lincoln like north carolina oh yeah those are elephant ears oh yeah they’re great that sounds like that could be a thing yeah that sounds accurate i like these because they’re a boat they’re a boat for for yeah delicious want to add some more syrup on there a little powdered sugar you want to slap a little whipped cream on there dealer’s choice good old-fashioned american mrs butterworth syrup as we all agreed is the best and on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and hendy’s audit with the hashtag opinion casserole for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your phenomenal canadian dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen uh renee thank you so much for joining us you’re obviously very passionate about your home country of canada we will learn the national anthem if you i’m gonna learn it after this done done and double up to circle back i would also just like to tag on that if you guys are being tagged in canadian food i would like people to tag me in that as well because i would like to be a part of everyone’s canadian culinary journey um so tag me at renee j oh wait it’s my what wait what is my instagram renee paquette it’s just my name tag me already i almost just gave like my full email address thinking that’s what it was hell yeah uh no please i mean tell people where they can find you uh what things they can buy we’re all trying to get people to buy things so uh tell them where they can buy your things yeah buy my things listen to my things you guys can buy my cookbook um that is on you can get that on amazon at barnes noble um just search renee paquette it’s called messy in the kitchen my guide to eating deliciously hosting fabulously and drinking copiously um i have my podcast oral sessions that drops on tuesdays and thursdays everywhere that you listen to podcasts and i also have my xm radio show with misha tate called throwing down with renee misha that is mondays on fight nation sirius xm hell yeah renee you rule thanks so much thank you so much thanks guys [Music] thanks for listening to this episode of a hot dog as a sandwich and hey before you go we wanted to remind you that season 2 of stevie’s podcast best friend’s back alright is underway this season expands on stevia and negin’s friendship from last season but explores all new themes and ideas yeah episodes will feature an open conversation with a gynecologist who just happens to be nakeen’s sister the ins and outs of eel sex and a deep dive into the most embarrassing items to be found by security at the airport things get crazy this season so be sure to follow best friends back all right on apple podcast spotify or wherever you get your podcast all right i like that me too all right all right all right