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to keep you you know engaged and stuff keep you engaged nicole coming out with the bangers don’t forget about it now we got a lot of fun stuff coming up such topics as why come food is how food why to do cooking uh you like cooking maybe see y’all in the new year you can’t throw a nickel down the damn street without hitting a nashville hot chicken restaurant these days but today we asked the question is hot chicken overrated also why are you throwing nickel stop doing that that’s that’s weird you’re gonna hurt somebody this is a hot dog is a sandwich ketchup is a smoothie yeah i put ice in my cereal so what that makes no sense hot dog is a sandwich a hot dog is a sandwich welcome to our podcast of hot dogs the sandwich the show where we break down the world’s biggest food debates i’m your host josh sharer and i’m your host nicole ineiti and nicole today we take an official stance on throwing nickels down streets i was not anticipating that yeah right that’s a fun thing you throw a nickel and really you can’t throw a nickel without hitting a natural hot chicken especially pop-up in los angeles yeah la is like the hub of nashville hot chicks it’s getting pretty bananas up here almost as much as nashville i’d say probably more than nashville just because you know for us it’s like a novel thing yeah right it didn’t exist too much in la like i remember i’m trying to think the first time i had national hot chicken do you remember i don’t remember the first time i had suddenly like it was almost nowhere i i’d heard of it of course and then it was everywhere within a span of like four years and it’s not just la we hear you commenters who say stop with the regional stuff uh cause we have a wide audience but no cool man because he’s a cool story we’re a trendsetter we are honestly i credit um howland ray’s johnny ray zone friend of the show i’m sorry if i say anything that offends you today because you make a fantastic chicken you already i’m a good person it’s just a good like it’s a good food yeah it is the way here he has like perfected his craft is incredible yeah so there’s there’s one restaurant in los angeles called howland ray’s that i believe is responsible for kicking off a lot of the hot chicken trend i’d say so i’d say in the cities but also there’s always like hattie bees and like those actual like nashville or originators oh of course there’s yeah this is and that is to say that like the originators so howdy b’s is actually not one of the originators yeah but you kind of thought they would right well everyone knows it i feel like everyone knows it did not start till 2012. it was a family of um restaurant not restaurateurs but um one was the ceo of a chain of cafeterias called morrison’s cafeterias um that were famously pro-segregation bad bad restaurant chain back in the civil rights era um yeah well and then uh hattie bees was like the the son of the family opened it in 2012. they were copying from princes and boltons were two of the first princes the princes is exactly exactly and actually there is an uh og restaurant from someone from the prince family called hotfield chicken in la that’s really fantastic i’ve heard hotville yeah hotfield’s really great um and i mean johnny from hell and raise uh he really put it on the map with his use of social media as well and i think that’s one of the reasons that hot chicken’s so big i mean i mean i mean the way whatever photographer beautiful guy hired to like do his marketing dude with an iphone incredible i mean i mean it’s beautiful like it’s just so jarring and it’s alarming and like chickens shouldn’t be that color but it is and then they dip it in the comeback celsius oh my god and then there’s a pickle like a like a rogue pickle and you’re like oh my god and then it’s on top of a piece of bread and you’re like ah and you have to go eat it it’s not just the nashville hot chicken that blew up it’s specifically the national hot chicken sandwich and we see the extensions of this branching out right we talk about the chicken sandwich wars all the time um on the podcast you it popeyes change the game with their chicken sandwich and then you have mcdonald’s carlos jr burger king kfc capes are good i like that i like kfc they make good chicken kfc’s close second to popeyes i agree with that you and i have the same rankings um but are you familiar with the way that like high fashion works because i certainly am of course so like i know all about high-fat you get all these honey did you forget where am i from i’m gonna go ahead and paraphrase everything i know which is from a 30 second clip from devil wears prada which i hadn’t watched till recently so good it was so good adrian grenier plays a pretty bad bad chef did not like his his his part no he’s like there’s a scene where he’s making ann hathaway a grilled cheese and he keeps flipping it back and forth because that’s what a chef does apparently and it’s like that’s makes no sense dude i just did that with a quesadilla that’s yeah so i kept flipping it over and over yeah the adrian grenier method of cheese melting uh but no there’s a singer meryl streep is an athlete’s like no one cares about this high fashion bs and and then meryl streep is like in the 1974 east saint laurent show he debuted the bow tie blah blah blah dress and then that one pantone color ended up in every nordstrom across america for you know and i and that was actually a learning moment for me because i will of course see these like fashion shows and like ah a person’s wearing like a trash bag with like a clear visor and like you know spiked sandals that’s dumb terry mugler 2019 amen sister you’re telling you’re preaching to the choir on the terry glover but you know what i mean like they introduce these like crazy ideas in a very small metropolitan setting that ends up in a department store that’s the same thing i think that happened with natural hot chicken you think nashville hot chicken is high fashion in in a way in a way in terms of it being in and i’m specifically calling howland reyes one of the progenitors here and again this is something that’s dating back you know 50 years in nashville uh predominantly black owned restaurants and you know unfortunate reality of how you know ideas spread via social media et cetera et cetera uh those who have the marketing tend to win uh so this isn’t to discredit like the ogs of the national hot chicken game but i think with the recent national blow up across i mean kfc buffalo wild wings arby’s had a damn nashville hot fish sandwich i’ve i feel good yeah it was a nice sandwich fish is kind of hot fire you know what is that bolton’s boltons is the originator of the hot fish i think it works better than a hot chicken and i do too i do too unpopular unpopular opinion that’s what the question should be it’s national hot fish underrated hell yeah it is i love give me more fried fish fried fish is better than fried chicken you know no i wouldn’t say that but uh as soon as i said it you know what it is the bitterness of the cayenne and the sweetness of the brown sugar works really well with the fish because it’s such a delicate flavor and has a has a delicate texture that it works really well with nashville seasoning yeah it’s incredible i think it’s this it’s the texture of the fish that it’s like lighter flakier that for me it works better with it uh for those who don’t know let’s talk about national hot chicken what it is what it isn’t what the origin is yeah so national hot chicken um contrary to something like a buffalo chicken right buffalo chicken which i think national hot chicken is supplanting it now yeah in a way yeah uh buffalo chicken is i don’t know i think it’s a little bit polarizing but continue buffalo chicken is say vinegar and butter and so that is you know a very clear just like fatty acidic spicy fried chicken nashville hot chicken is not that and i think some people expect it to be natural hot chicken you take cayenne any other sort of chili powders um what just a bunch of rice yeah but a bunch of red stuff cayenne paprika other chili powder stuff like that uh maybe some garlic maybe some onion and then brown sugar but the two real components are cayenne brown sugar those are the main tastes that you get yeah and then you take that and you dump it in a hot oil some places you straight up lard which is great and then the lard or the oil blooms the spices right gets them nice and toasty yeah you dunk the chicken you take the chicken out of hot fry oil you put it back into oil with the spices put some more spice on top of that and so it is like just greasy sweet aromatic bitter dusky spicy chicken and it’s like not a universally great profile i’d say in the same way that buffalo chicken is like it satisfies like an evolutionary desire at me interesting you know it’s just it’s very simple it’s it’s vinegar and spice cutting through butter and that to me is like a very just syncopating balance yeah but i think the american palate isn’t used to eating bitter stuff often no but they’re starting so you’re saying like the national hodgins kind of like introducing people like oh there’s more complexity in this yeah i think so i do too i think there’s there’s a lot of complexities in a beautiful and the beautiful piece of nashville hot chicken i agree with that i think it’s the way that kind of like when flame and hot cheetos sort of cheat to me change the american palette totally when every single uh i mean talking about richard montagnes who there was some debate on whether or not he invented him he invented him god dang it uh i believe him um but you know he was saying before that every snack aisle it was all just cheese flavored chips cheese cheese cheese chips cause americans love cheese and we have a dairy surplus and they hold cheese in caves and it’s the whole thing but like every spicy chicken sandwich was buffalo before this right i mean how many other spicy chicken options did we have in like the american cannon especially looking at like a kfc type yeah that chicken wasn’t it was well seasoned just not spicy yeah yeah and then you know kfc comes out with the nashville hot chicken um that was it’s perfectly fine i think it makes kfc chicken uh maybe better it was good i think it’s almost too sweet yeah they can’t make your version is almost too sweet almost teetering on like uh an orange chicken in a weird way yeah actually i feel that candy quality bone in orange chicken almost well they came out with three different regional chicken flavors yeah and they were only tangentially because nashville hot chicken is so closely associated with the city of nashville they did a carolina uh honey no uh carolina something gold carolina gold yeah i think so carolina gold it was like a south carolina style mustard barbecue sauce but it was just georgia gold georgia gold georgia gold georgia gold was there was a carolina tang maybe carolina barbecue yeah it was a it was a barbecue one it was like sweet smokey tennessee mountain maybe i don’t know but uh they came up with regional varieties but the national hot chicken is always the one that stood out yeah um and then the origin of natural hot chicken is often associated to the prince family um the the matriarch right there’s the classic origin myth that every good uh empire needs to start with and it’s that you know husband was cheating on her and he came back and she was gonna make him his favorite dish which was fried chicken but she was like i’m gonna ruin this dish with so much cayenne pepper he needs to be so mad and in pain i’m gonna go don’t cheat on me anymore and then he ate it he was like this is the greatest thing i’ve ever had and then they started a restaurant who knows if it actually happens so are you trying to tell me that nashville hot chicken can help repair cheating in a relationship yeah i don’t know he still probably cheated after that he didn’t learn his lesson if he loved the chicken now he’s incentivized to cheat yeah he’s incentivized to cheat what maybe you know what maybe they ended up being ethically non-monogamous oh that’s a possibility that’s about it anything within anything is possible within food origin stories that we’re likely made up because it’s a great story and it’s a great way to sell chicken yeah [Music] there are few better foods to eat during the summer than a nice juicy grilled piece of chicken or steak or salmon that’s right whether you have a go-to favorite or you like switching up what you’re grilling you can improve your grilling lineup this summer with butcherbox the subscription service that delivers a large selection of high quality meat and seafood right to your door now my favorite thing about butcher box isn’t just the top tier quality meat but it’s super affordable we’re talking less than six dollars per meal on average here people and it’s convenient every month butcherbox ships a 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the nuts and bolts do you think it’s overrated do you think that we have out kicked our coverage i think los angeles has overdone it so much we have the hou let me speak sorry don’t take up so much space we have we have we have dave’s hot chicken which drake invested a lot of money in we have howl and raise which is delicious and amazing we have i mean i’m on yelp right now flamin hot chicken blazin hot chicken uh yolo hot chicken harry’s hot chicken uh angry birds hades hot chicken there’s a place called banging buns that i can’t say the f-word of this podcast i sure want to because there’s have you seen idiocracy yeah you know how fuddruckers they show the evolution of fuddruckers it turns from like fuddruckers to like rut buckers and then it just ends up uh just butt effers yeah bangin buns is just that it’s the idiocracy version of hot chicken what i’m trying to say is that there is a lot of good hot chicken out there in l.a i cannot eat hot chicken often i think um it’s one of those foods that you can spoil yourself with if you eat too much of it i think it’s a special occasion thing that you do you’re like you eat the spicy food you put the gloves on whatever it’s an event um yeah um i don’t i think it’s like a little bit overrated right now yeah a little bit i think it’s a little like there’s too many cooks in the kitchen there’s too many fingers in the pot there’s too many people trying to be like hot chicken gods and like i don’t need all that you know do something else do something new do something unique um there was a there’s a pop-up that did a hot chicken with szechuan pepper uh not actually a pop-up it’s a restaurant from maylin called daybird i mean i mean that’s an incredible twist on a very very famous chicken sandwich i want those people that are opening up these hot chicken shops give me some you know i don’t know give me some cool stuff give me some stuff from i don’t know cambodia give me some stuff i was just thinking about give me some stuff from i don’t know south africa i’m just looking at you because you saw it like you know what i mean harry perry chicken yeah uh give me a fried perry perry chicken sandwich yeah use use the african bird’s eye chili bring some cool stuff in it you know yeah get some innovation in there but that said i think it has led to people innovating right anytime something becomes too popular there’s going to be overflow and people are going to make little like derivations on it sure and so if that overflow and popularity stems from spicy chicken spicy fried chicken that i’m in right it could just raise the game of because spicy fried chicken is i mean korean chicken wings you know you got thai fried chicken with uh with the sweet chili sauce like perry perry chicken spicy chicken it’s a game it’s a game-changing food it’s the best food it’s hard to beat it’s hard to be and there’s so many possibilities the possibilities are endless there was someone in a pop-up at a pop-up in la doing like a mexican hot chicken sandwich i mean yum what that sounds delicious using like actual instead of just cayenne because i think one of the big knocks against uh natural hot chicken is that you’re really only tasting like cayenne and brown sugar yeah unless you do it right honestly yeah i mean there’s certainly some like i know johnny at allen raised he uses a huge blend of spices and real chili peppers but like imagine taking that and flipping it to like the mexican profile even using like pilon c or the unrefined sugar you know with actual like dried chilies or chilis that have been fried and then dehydrated that’s incredible you know get some chile morita in there like that sounds freaking awesome so i love the fact that it’s opened up people to just making more better spicy fried chicken totally but as it stands now dude i i was like pulling i was pulling in my old apartment in sherman oaks and there’s a uh what’s it called a washing machine car wash car washing machine for your car i do that sometimes i say it sometimes there’s a car wash washing machine next to the apartment complex i was in uh and i saw you know a line 50 people deep right see the flood lights there you see the fryers you smell a little spice in the air and i was like man i gotta go oh yeah this is gonna be great national hot chicken and i went it was people just frying like pre-made tenders and putting real crap seasoning on it you know everyone’s doing a pink sauce yeah come back come back sauce is what uh johnny calls it alan ray’s which i believe is a north carolina invention so it’s that’s not typical with uh with nashville hot chicken right really no it’s not i’m glad that i get to experience it with that sauce i do too i do too but that said this place just like sucked like it sucked the food was ass they were like under frying or ida french fries put in the sauce that was garbage on these garbage dried chicken tenders just shaking cayenne and so we’ve opened ourselves up to like snake oil salesmen with nashville hot chicks that’s what i’m saying there’s too many people copying the idea of a good chicken and it’s pissing me off it’s been pissing me off people trying to make a living you’re pissing me off out there yeah you make me sound evil no it’s just i’m just no i’m i’m on the same page every corner i see a hot chicken shop firing it’s it’s how i feel about smash burgers and beer yeah those are three national hot chicken birya and smash burgers are three great foods that have been just completely screwed by the people trying to make them better 100 and you get so many people there’s actually a story about um uh pueblin food truck owners who just flipped to start making beer yeah cause they knew they would like make more money and so i love samitas poblanos one of the world’s great sandwiches yeah is it a green truck uh oh yeah yeah you’re talking about the place in west l.a yeah that’s literally what it’s called i was literally saying the name of the phone oh sorry samit’s from pueblo but there is a truck called samitas poblanos no i prefer um samitas you’ve told me about it yeah that place rules they got a head cheese and a steak milanesa samita so it’s amita it’s the sandwich that’s on this kind of like sweetish crusty roll i mean it’s a savory roll but it’s like crusty sweet dark brown with sesame seeds on top you cut it open you put in queso oaxaca in it or um casio is what it’s called so like really just hard shreddy salty string cheese put avocado on it a really delicious chipotle salsa and then whatever filling you want refried beans i don’t know there’s no beans to eat that i love a little bit of cabbage really i always ask for beans and biscuits oh really oh maybe maybe maybe i just didn’t get them um but like it’s just such a beautiful sandwich but they’re these food truck owners who had to start making beer because they wanted to survive right and they wanted to make money dude remember the beauty of boom the beer boom the beer boom still going on so beer yeah for people don’t know wild um it is a dish that i believe originated in jalisco typically made with goat um but then as it traveled across mexico people started making it with lamb with borigo or with just beef which some people call tijuana style birya but i know that’s a bit of a controversial statement there but anyways the beef birya is just spicy shredded beef cooked down in a bunch of like chilies and aromatics and then it’s typically served with a side of the broth or the console and then they’ll typically dip the tortillas in the red oil and fry those which is how you get names like teddy’s red tacos and stuff like that i think teddy’s red tacos is like the howlin rays of beardia it is yeah they’re social i mean honestly the social media that these guys have just pumped out makes you want to eat it it’s crazy the psychological like things that they do it’s like the dips and the videos and the pictures it’s like oh my god it’s it’s stunning to look at someone was uh i’ve we did a tick tock about flaming hot cheetos and someone someone made a comment that was like why can’t they just take out the red dye number 40. why can’t it would taste the same and it sure would you know why they can’t take it out because it’s beautiful it’s beautiful it’s gorgeous it’s glowing red food yeah tandoori chicken that’s food dye dude oh my gosh this food diet the super red tandoori chicken that you see that’s straight up food dye can somebody make us a hot chicken butt with like indian flavors please it would be really my soul it would it would just please my soul oh my god like just grate the jaggery and then make like a really good massage dude can we do that yeah next mythical kitchen episode hot chicken from around the world yeah let’s do it i mean honestly that why not that sounds really dank right every culture like has like a certain spice profile even if even if it wasn’t a dry spice like i’m i’m thinking about you know a filipino hot chicken even though there’s not typically a lot of like real spice and filipino food but i mean even oh my god like uh what uh indonesian like with the different sambals oh hell yeah is that lemongrass sambal you know i always talk about that lemongrass sambal with the people at work and they’re like what are you talking about i’m like this looks like that david brought for us i still remember what color the jar is it’s purple yeah and so again if if that’s what it takes natural hot chicken boom if it takes me getting a couple crappy fried chicken tenders from a from a washing car washing machine you mean a car wash yeah that one if it takes that to like raise the general spicy fried chicken game across the world i meant i’m absolutely in i’m in too [Music] how do you feel about dave’s um dave’s hot chicken i went one of so david my husband took me to dave’s on like a date one time and then um i stood in line for about like 45 minutes and i got their chicken tenders and then i got a chicken sandwich and then chicken tenders well they only serve chicken tenders oh really so i didn’t get a chicken sandwich no no sorry i mean like they they don’t serve like bone and chicken i want them so it’s just sandwich yeah yeah okay yeah i had a sandwich and then i also had a few tenders and then i also had fries on the side i believe it’s been a while and um honestly it was great it is did it it’s good it didn’t knock my socks off no it’s not meant to helen reyes knocks my socks off when i have it and that’s the reason that when people listen people listening to this podcast who aren’t in a major metropolitan area who maybe don’t know what we’re talking about with the national hot chicken obviously you’ve seen it at kfc um you’re about to because of dave’s in the next five years yeah in the next five years that dave’s is gonna be in your hometown i’m convinced also drake invested like so much money into dave’s hot chicken yeah nuts because they’re franchising and that’s the reason drake invested they’re about to blow up a little big thing and the reason helen reyes can’t do that uh is because they frankly they use more expensive ingredients they use mary’s chicken um they take a lot more time mary’s chicken this mary’s chicken does chicken is a very very high quality chicken it’s a nice little organic chicken farm up uh it’s actually kind of close to here right there yeah it’s a couple hours away you should go visit if you go kill a chicken i need to kill a chicken like for like prayer reasons no like no i don’t i don’t like i have a relative dying and i’m trying to sacrifice oh i’m sorry is that i don’t know about it yeah well okay no i was just gonna say i feel like um i’ve never killed like an animal i i feel bad i’ve never killed an animal i know i i feel bad hooking a worm to like fish which isn’t a thing i do often but even as a kid i was like i feel bad killing this worm i’ve never been fishing before really mm-hmm do you want me to say no i don’t make a defense that’s so nice of you to offer yes you can take me i just i don’t know how to do it what do you do oh well no i don’t want to go fishing i know how to cast a rod but like i don’t know how to drive a boat sitting on a boat with you in silence wouldn’t be fun i wouldn’t be silent are you kidding me i would be doing exactly what we do on the podcast but for eight hours on a boat are we talking about the the tcby closures of the midtooth josh the fish wouldn’t come because you talk too much can they hear you i thought it was like uh keep your footsteps light on the boat do your fish have ears i don’t know man i get blacked out you might not be able to drive the boat back though yeah maybe you just googled how do you fish and there’s a man in a georgia bulldogs cat that says how to catch your first fish yeah i feel like you have to be quiet when you go fishing yeah that’s i feel like maybe that’s just the thing that like stoic dads said to their kid together shut up you gotta be quiet on the boat now there boss the fish i feel like i’m a hypocrite for eating meat without ever having known that i can take the life of an animal i think i’m already doing it indirectly i just don’t see it i think buzzfeed actually did a video where meat eaters kill their first chicken and i think it opened their eyes messed them up yeah i messed them up yeah yeah i don’t think i could do it i’d be pretty messed up i don’t know i kind of like my life right now okay well i’m not going to force you to do anything you don’t want to do but it’s just a thought okay so i feel like neither of us have even close to answer the question well i mean we we did we said it’s it’s overpopulated right now but even as like a flavor profile like do you think it’s overrated can a flavor profile be overrated i don’t know maybe that’s probably not it’s safe to say it’s just honestly i’m no it’s not nashville hot chicken is not overrated the sheer volume of the amount of hot chicken is overrated yeah and like at some point the supply is you know commensurate to the demand and so it’s like the people demanded it the supply followed yeah right that’s actually one of the reasons dave’s exists right is that howland ray’s was so popular for people who don’t know this place literally has five hour lines um and it’s insane you have to plan your whole day around it mm-hmm and the chicken is really one of the better foods what i don’t like the lines yeah i hate lines i have so much adhd i feel like i hate lines i’m physically it’s out in lines did you know is that a medical i like i just need one other buddy in line and then like we can go to different places and i’ll like get coffee and all that yeah kind of keep yourself occupied listen to a podcast but i hate sitting still and listening to podcasts i want there to be lines that’s why i crochet when i drive i want there to be lines but i want there to be what what you know how to crochet yeah i stopped myself while i was driving to work well i don’t care about my 2017 nissan is self-driving no it’s not your knees does not make itself well somehow i get here nicole somehow i get here using your knees does not mean self-driving um um what was i going to say i totally forgot uh flavor profile universal there needs to be chairs in lines oh yeah it should be like in wall-e they’re kind of on like a treadmill like an escalator moving you through stuffing the chicken into your mouth kicking your ass out you know that’s the future that’s the national hot chicken future all over the microphone i feel like i was making a point about supply and demand economics where’s the what’s his name paul krugman or whatever get your ass over here new york times economist who’s paw patrol friedman krugman i don’t care um what i’m saying is that there’s such a huge demand for national hot chicken ballet because of helen ray’s that dave’s they just started a pop-up mediocre well not even mediocre i mean it still tastes really good but they’re cutting down on costs they probably cut down on labor they’re probably using you know a lot more pre-cut ingredients etc and they figured out a way to take all the overfill this is a picture of drake eating dave’s yeah yeah this is drake eating dave’s and that’s what they’re like gosh man once drake gets on we need drake to endorse this podcast point is they just started one pop-up on like i think it might have been melrose like in hollywood yeah and then and then that you know exploded and now drake is investing in their expansion plans which is incredible and it reminds me of another boom uh-huh what’s that freaking froyo man oh wow boom all over again oh my gosh i do miss froyo what’s the last time you had froyo like all the time like i go to yogurtland often like alone like like two weeks ago i was just driving by because i took a wrong i couldn’t make a left leaving the office and so i’d like go a different way and the gps rerouted me yeah you know exactly and then there’s the yogurt land and you gotta make it somewhat difficult left turn i hope people don’t reverse engineer this to find where the studio is i left it vague enough but there’s there’s a yogurt laying nearby the studio but that’s there’s a yogurt nearby i’m talking there’s a yogurtland nearby every studio in los angeles because it’s freaking yogurtland because they’re everywhere move on and i went there and i got i got i got my half pound of yogurtland and i just sat and i ate it outside in three minutes and i got back on my car commute at home oh my god traffic was lighter because i spent some time eating yogurt land i love it but that said that’s one of those industries that like tcby was one of the first major chains tcby never had tcpy yogurt i don’t think they’re a big californian because i think they had a lot of mom and pop shops never heard of tcby before but there’s the place in l.a that i know you’ve been to a lot the big chill which uh got into a huge fight with demi lovato about their body negative yogurt shop it’s just yummy people need to chill it’s terrible it is the worst frozen you’ve ever had i demi lovato had a point and their yogurt’s also bad go to penguins there’s another frozen world is better but this is just to illustrate my point that there is a frozen yogurt shop 50 yards from the frozen yogurt shop we are talking about i guess and so that was such a huge massive boom and then you saw like menchie’s yogurtland it didn’t tank uh pinkberry red mango there’s all these massive yogurt chains do you remember pink i got a pink berry all the time i go to pinkberry in the westfield when i got i went through a week ago when i went shopping for pants i’m shocked yeah i love frozen yogurt i like frozen yogurt more than natural hot chicken push money on food i really do yeah dude you’ve dropped like eight bucks of pink berry all those little parfaits yeah but i like the fruit what kind of fruit do you get on your pink fairy uh uh pineapple blackberry blueberry nice yeah it’s getting you know i don’t like strawberry strawberry i mean strawberries are fine now you ask me oh my god i’m so sorry nicole well i didn’t know you went to pinkberry nicole what do you what kind of fruits do you get in your pinkberry parfait the people need to know i don’t think it’s that important they always have like three flavors only it’s like chocolate vanilla and then they’re like uh this one’s nutella matcha and it’s like why why is that one nutella matcha yeah um closing thoughts yeah okay i don’t think we answered the question yeah do you want to answer the question sure certainly i can riff so foo everything’s cyclical right there’s always going to be a boom and bust cycle among food and then once something gets really popular there’s always going the a-holes like us who like to detract from it yeah uh when it comes down to it i think you know the nashville hot chicken boom much like birya much like smash burgers ultimately it’s leading to one more opportunities for restaurateurs if there’s a couple a couple snake oil salesmen out there who are getting rich off of nashville hot chicken uh not even pointing fingers to dave’s because again they taste pretty freaking good that’s good um you know that’s totally fine that’s uh part of the cost that’s going to come with it and then you get the benefit of people you know i don’t know able to start a pop-up using an old grandmother’s recipe and making people happy with their food and so i think if you don’t look too deep into it you just accept the fact that hey spicy fried chicken uh whether or not it truly pays homage or respects the original recipe or the creators of it um it’s it’s here to stay there’s nothing we can do to it it’s only our reaction that we can control uh and i choose to believe that it’s gonna raise the bar on spicy fried chicken across the globe [Music] all right nicole what’s up all right we’ve heard about you and i have to now it’s time to find out what other wack idiots are rattling out there in the twitter verse oh it’s time for second week all right opinion casserole [Music] uh great great glad we got through that cleanly i did that we’ll do another nine takes and then we’ll we’ll get the good one uh not first up we got at victory wilson my fiance eats his breakfast pizza with peanut butter on top i have a couple questions okay so let’s break this out let’s break down the sentence structure one you’re establishing the breakfast pizza is a thing that exists which i i can it can i like made it yeah i know what it but it’s not like in the culinary canon of things one read for becca’s second uses the term his breakfast pizza as in this is the thing he does all the time right he didn’t eat a breakfast pizza like you are implying that this is a daily occurrence often yeah he eats the salt yeah and and so this is already weird to me okay and then you introduce the fact there’s peanut butter involved and then it kind of goes off the rails yeah um i just don’t get it i just i need to know more or i need to know less yeah that’s a good one either way the amount of information given to me is not appropriate i’m very curious what’s on this breakfast pizza uh are you do you love him uh i don’t know i mean it’s her fiance so she’s not like she’s still like not married yeah yeah there’s no legal document you can bounce if she wants to um no everything about if there’s eggs on that pizza everything about this sounds quite unpleasant to me i’m happy that your fiance has like found his thing seems like his thing it’s like my gross protein it’s like my prune teen shape yeah i understand that like the prunes makes sense a little bit yeah a little bit right no toast no yeah you’re trying all right next one uh lady casmiro says cheetos puffs or original one two three let me do a whole episode of the podcast about it okay fine hell yeah uh eat that liddy all right add humans under wait what do you know what do you think actually yeah original almond puffs oh well i guess let’s hash it out let’s hash it out um at humans underscore are featherless yeah that checks out uh peanut butter and honey is better than peanut butter and jelly josh made another burner account i haven’t made that joke in a while why would i go with humans our fearless i always go with rusty shackleford that’s all my burners it’s rusty shackleford and then a series of numbers because it’s a fake alias made by the character dale gribble in king of the hill oh okay you’re a big king you are a big king of the hill fan favorite show of all time cool really great um yeah no peanut peanut butter and honey is the better combo uh the peanut butter jelly it’s the delight introduced some bananas in there you’re about to have a wild time but i found out though nicole what’s up that there are certain jams out there that are honey like and i enjoy which ones fig okay you’re having so much fun today i’m really glad you’re having such a good time it really makes me happy of course i am but you’re just like like happier than usual yeah i love that i think i’m sleep deprived and manic oh no it’s a good thing it’s a good thing it’s great for content you drink a lot of water today yeah oh i’m dehydrated too keep drinking water yeah i’m gonna keep trying to keep plugging away at it okay aeroholic says a sandwich with summer sausage and strawberry jam on cheap grocery store bread uh what i would do is i would uh sear the sausage that was serious no that it was the internal fat structure the summer sauce here i don’t care nicole this is my cause i was raised by her josh a white boomer dad summer sausage is the official food of white boomer dads you get it from from the hillshark farms box that his sister sends to him every christmas and the same summer sausage that’s a boomer white dad food you know what this is is boomer white dead chartreutery this is this is you got like the you know the bread you got the cured meat you got strawberry jam which functions as like a membrio or a quince paste this is white boomer dad chart chewedery and it’s delicious i mean you said it had samuel 14. french fries don’t go in milkshakes yeah of course they don’t go in milkshakes you use them to scoop up the milkshake duh well they quick they quickly go in and then they quickly come out it’s called the pull out method of french fry milkshake drinking eating drinking i’ve seen them going milkshakes dude you can’t tell me they don’t they will fit in there if you shove them hard enough you know i don’t see what the issue is um again i used to be someone who was disgusted by the french fried milkshake thing and i tried it a couple times and then somehow my palate changed to be more of a garbage human as i aged instead of refining it it’s gotten the opposite it’s been literally it’s like if you were to take refined oil and return it back into crude that’s what my palette’s done because i now enjoy this heavily good i’m glad french fries and mustard no i mean like i used to not like mustard right now i do like mustard mustard milkshakes i never said that you’re just mixing all mustards are just like yellow yellow yeah yellow yellow mustard is technically hot sauce uh-huh i thought you’re going to fight it i don’t have any fight left in me josh like someone not responding to a bully i now have no incentive to throw out wild accusations and theorems okay fine maybe i’ll get a little bit i’ll get a little aggressive with it all right okay uh traviola e4 says truffle oil is a gimmick up charge to make something taste a bit more like dirt everything’s a damn gimmick man what yeah it doesn’t taste like dirt to me what does it taste like um um i mean was the last time i was you know face deep in dirt i don’t remember yeah no what what dirt yeah there’s there’s other mushrooms taste more like dirt than truffle which ones like uh creminis cremini’s i like i love creamy i don’t like them i’d rather have a button mushroom i’m like creaminess just tastes like dirty bubble mushrooms on button mushrooms you love button mushrooms you’re not too good for buttons yeah you pretend you’re not baby bella’s they’re just creminis yeah i know that good good then good you know that nicole good i’m happy for you truffles taste like farts but like a fancy person fart you know like if a fancy person raised on a diet of just caviar ate wendy’s once and then farted into a cup like like one of the chumps no no like eric trump farted into a wendy’s cup that’s what truffle tastes like like somebody who grew up on a grotesquely rich diet you know you ever seen the the like caviar service at mar-a-lago where they’re just like spooning it with plastic spoons onto like packaged saltines yeah someone like ate that type of diet no vegetables um eats wendy’s once farts into a cup that’s truffle i don’t see why i don’t see why that’s that’s just what this is the tasting notes i’m like a sommelier i i’m finding truffle oil i kind of like it i don’t know i know it’s fake i know it’s fake i know it’s a weird little extract but like it’s fine i like truffle honey it’s my favorite way to eat yeah truffle interesting yeah sweet’s a good combo favorite some funk all right at hogtown dj first love the show stop trying to butter us up just tell me your garbage opinion um yeah here it is i’m mad at mad as hell about this uh don’t don’t care that you love the show now cantaloupe and honeydew in a fruit cup is garbage filling oh no okay well technically they’re correct because i having worked for a catering company mm-hmm that’s what it is yeah yeah let’s pull back the veil on this because we once had like it was like a wedding that hired a.s ucla catering for their wedding which is sad did you do they have fruit cups at their wedding oh we had a baby we had a big bowl of fruit salad that’s embarrassing and they were like can we not get any honeydew in cantaloupe and we were like yeah and then we’ll charge you triple and they’re like why and they’re like because that’s the cheapest fruit yeah no one likes it it’s there i happen to love it i would have said i have an allergy to cantaloupe and honeydew don’t upcharge me we were all like 19 year olds i’m talking about this oh yeah but i’m saying we just wouldn’t care we would’ve just been like well it’s there i don’t know what to do do you want an extra like dan and yogurt cup because that’s what we also do yogurt at a wedding yeah dude i don’t know this catering company there were like three packages it was like do you want beans and chicken or the yogurt fruit or like packaged muffins with tea and that’s like all we had okay um i don’t mind cantaloupe and honeydew in my fruit cup but i never get fruit cups because i don’t get fruit that’s not my favorite i was at a brunch the other day and someone ordered like fruit for the table and it’s pretty nice that’s nice when i go on vacation i always try to order fruit for everybody because your digestive tract kind of gets a little wonky whenever you’re traveling yeah you don’t eat vegetables on vacation oh you you have what don’t eat that’s the rule when i go on video okay vacation my whole life goes on vacation no veggies airport panda express and that’s it yeah like four like four in the morning okay uh snuggles uh says spaghetti squash is better than pasta for spaghetti and meatballs oh i haven’t had spaghetti squash in about like five years i eat a ton of spaghetti squash yeah um this is something that spaghetti squash is very deeply rooted at least from what i’ve seen in diet culture in a very weird way right yeah it’s like cauliflower rice or zoodles it’s become one of those things that people think you should eat spaghetti squash with spaghetti-esque ingredients because it’s called spaghetti squash it doesn’t go well with the tomato sauce in my opinion what do you think it goes well with because i’ve been trying to like find out how to consume spaghetti squash in an enjoyable manner and i haven’t found it yet i mean i like it on ray it’s it’s starchier than something like a butternut squash it’s not quite as sweet you still get some sweetness i mean i’ve been using it as like the base for like uh braises that have a fair amount of like salt and acid in it okay which i guess tomato sauce so like instead of a bed of polenta it’s liquid spaghetti exactly yeah and i really enjoy that and i think it soaks it up nicely and i think if you think of spaghetti squash is either spaghetti or squash it’s bad but if you think of it as coleslaw potato then it’s really good cause that’s what i like it for but that said spaghetti meatballs is a bad combination mm-hmm they shouldn’t be eaten together oh really i i why do you say that why do you think it’s good why would you say that there’s bread in the meatballs already my italian roommates told me that this is on the side what it’s on the side it should be on the side i agree with that i don’t think they should be topped yeah there’s no point in eating but they go well and i never i never want them in the same bite either oh what no i’ll put if i want bread and meatballs i’ll put it down um yeah but i don’t know man spaghetti meatballs isn’t that good spaghetti squash with meatballs also isn’t that good um if you enjoy it that’s pretty rad but there’s just like better things to do with spaghetti squash there’s stuff at like an israeli egg plant oh yeah that sounds good there’s a persian dish that’s squash and meatballs and it’s really good really good or is it zucchini is squash and zucchini like the same thing zucchini is technically a summer squash oh yeah so yeah or like a spring summer yeah so yeah once i’m gonna bring it for you my mom makes it really good ah essentially how what kind of sauce is it tomato based no i don’t know it’s really good though you’re a chef i forgot mommy he makes it my mom makes it i don’t make it i don’t know she makes it i don’t know everything well i don’t know the circumference of the earth it was like twenty three seven two get away twenty three k okay real quick look it up breathe okay all right at mitchell srm gyoza are the best food man kyoza aren’t even the best is it gyoza’s is or gyoza’s r i don’t know um twenty four thousand i said twenty three twelve twenty five thousand seven twenty three stop flexing for the gram i don’t know um no i mean i gyoza are one of those things that like whenever i go to a japanese restaurant typically if i’m with julia she orders them and for me though i would like i’d rather i wouldn’t order it yeah yeah or if i’m at like an izakaya i’d rather eat other izukai dishes give me the takoyaki give me the okonomiyaki i think that’s true yeah gyoza is a crowd pleaser good frozen food a great frozen yeah the best i i will say this frozen gyoza is the best frozen food more than taquitos more than i don’t even know like chicken nuggets i think gyoza is the the number one pigs in a blanket yeah yeah no no no no no no you got to make fresh pigs you had them at your wedding i did you’d pick somebody at your wedding pigs in them i’d know i don’t know it was cows in a blanket because yeah jewish wedding he really want the pigs i was like what do you mean there were pigs with like like it’s all beef hot dog yeah i snuck in my own pork to your wedding uh i and i i really love like the chinese cannon of dumplings as well you know and so i feel like for me i just um there’s better japanese dishes um and there’s better dumplings than gyoza and i like what like what better dumpling than gyoza uh i mean xiao long bao for instance or shumai hog but also they’re not as easy to make as gyoza so you have to think about that too you know where is going to make is going to make like xiaolongbao yeah no that’s what i’m saying though if a place has gyoza i probably don’t want to order it because i don’t think it’s going to be like the dumpling isn’t gonna be as good it’s like um maybe they’re frozen this is something i do though like it’s like a chinese buffet is making sushi it’s not gonna be good i’m gonna eat it i’m gonna eat it i’m gonna eat it yeah and some of them is gonna have canned tuna in it the one over here in bermuda i love canned okay whoever doesn’t like canned tuna and their sushi is like trippin it’s not really good it’s it’s kimbap at that point it’s good whatever it is i love it korean uh monty that’s a good dumpling too oh yeah mandu oh not monty yeah sorry monty’s the freaking armenian yeah that’s also delicious i was going to bring that up too and mundo is good george and dumpling souped up george and soup dumpling oh my god i always wanted to try king kali dude like there’s just so many the world dumplings is great uh gyoza is perfectly fine food not my favorite have we done an international dumpling episode we should we definitely did we did yeah okay look at us look at us we like boiled a whole plum and oh yeah you remember things so well yeah weird memory weird weird sick thoughts up in my head all right on that note thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich if you want to hear more from us here in the mythical kitchen we got new episodes for you every wednesday if you want to be featured on opinions or like casseroles you can hit us up on twitter at mythicalchef or and handyzonda with the hashtag opinioncasserole and for more mythical kitchen check us out on youtube where we launch new videos every week and of course if you want to share pictures of your dishes hit us up on instagram at mythical kitchen we’ll see you next time i also get to say pictures of your feet [Music]