[Music] welcome to ear biscuits I’m Rhett and I’m link thanks for joining us today that’s right it’s another interesting conversation with someone interesting from the interesting internet interesting net at the roundtable of dim lighting this week we have each other that’s right people you get another rhett and Link only ear biscuit this week I’m not gonna apologize for that what you don’t have to I mean you seem like you are about to apologize no no no and then you said I’m not gonna apologize for I thought about apologizing for it kinda backwards but I can’t apologize for it we’ve got some dark chocolate here that I will be eating as we have this conversation I’m very much looking forward to I think that right I know you’re gonna enjoy it but I think that you’re gonna enjoy it out there in your in your ear cans or your pan or in your car or I like to imagine you wherever you are being transported to another word you’re it’s like you’re sitting here at this table with us so yeah yeah it’s like you’re the guest today but you’re silent that somebody out there is on a bus you’re on the bus you get on the bus every single day where an ear can you got those in your cans on and you’re like alright time from a biscuit as I go along and you’re making eye contact with the guy across from you right now who also has onto your cans he’s listening to another podcast what I want you to do right now is I want you to pause this I want to take you ear cans off I want you to go I want you to grab him by his ears pull his ear cans out and say what podcast you listening to and then he’s gonna say something else and then you say you should be listening to ear biscuits and then just give him your ear cans he’s gonna start to try to say something and you just put your finger over his list and say Shh your biscuits and then go back and sit down that’s how we spread the word about your biscuits one interaction at a time okay here’s what I’ve decided to do in this rhett and Link only your biscuit this week I want to explore a phenomenon related to you Rhett that’s me I’m here and this is it this is a fascinating phenomenon in how your brain works how your life works I guess that not only have I noticed this but you piqued my interest your wife has chronicled this you know in fact today I asked you to send her a text to make sure I wasn’t missing anything in my list of what I want to go through and she replied with even more things to add to the list to do not only has your wife chronicled and diagnosed I’ll even say this this phenomenon don’t know ah psoriasis but my wife as well has been a part of this conversation and we have labelled this this phenomenon that is not necessarily unique to you but between the two of us it is and I think that there’s also as we discussed this it is kind of a discussion about the interplay of our friendship and how we’re different and how the dynamic of it and how things work and how your personality impacts how we interact so okay I mean I’m not gonna hedging or you want to ask me questions is it how it’s gonna work yeah I’ve got a list here I’m gonna prompt you do I need to lay with some some things no it’s it’s not a counselling appointment it’s a it’s just a phone conversation don’t need to stand up okay this is Rhett is an ideas guy I mean it’s one of the things that I’ve liked about him in the things I used to like about things I appreciated that old but they’re Rhett goes through a series of obsessions like a fashion designer goes through new outfits and I thought it would be fun to explore all of the all of the obsessions that Rhett has had over the years things that he gets really excited about for for one hot minute before just long enough it hasn’t even cooled off before he’s moved on to the next thing that he’s I’m so excited about this this is the thing and so I’ve called it Jessie your wife and my wife Christy what I mean we talked about this and we’re like here you are okay it’s another obsession Rhett’s talking about vitamins and natural medicine to call it phases phases that’s right why calls it a phase of say oh he’s just going through another phase he’s talking about natural medicine he’s reading a book about what vitamins he’s gonna take what supplements he’s gonna take hit next week it’ll be gone it’s just a phase it’s an obsessive phase and can I make my can I give you my perspective on that oh yeah we don’t you already know that yeah that’s not what you call it I call it layers okay because my contention is that yes these particular things that I know that what you’re gonna list I know that I know what my layers are I may have had a more heated passion for them at times that has subsided somewhat however they remain on my mind in my heart and a part of my life at different points and I can access them at any time and some I just I want to go back and I want to go deeper and there’s an interesting for some later it’s a layer okay so I have a list of these layers and I would like terminology or I mean I’ve got 14 of these we may not even get through all of them okay love to talk I could do a podcast on each there’s no need to spend too much time on each one but I think as we go through it there’s an interesting phenomenon that the different the reason why we call them in a session because you bring these things to us to me to your wife sometimes to my wife and it’s well you bring it to me and it’s an implication for Christy that this could change my life if I if I decide to get into this – right so it’s always a point of decision for us when you’re when you have your new layer am I in this am I on this okay and if I am then it could really take off because it’s like adding fuel to a fire kind of thing or am I gonna is this not for me kind of it right because you know I’m a musician pretty singularly focused on bangs and so if you get into something well buddy you go pretty deep right um let’s just get to one okay these are semi in chronological order ultra lights ultra lights yes this see this is a class of airplanes that at the time I became interested in these a class of airplanes that what a class of airplanes that you don’t need a real license to fly now that has changed I don’t remember what year it was it was about the time I was interested in this they were changing and creating a new classification of airplanes but let me tell you about this I was working for Black & Veatch engineering firm this is my first job right out of college and we didn’t have a whole lot of work going on I spent a lot of time on the interwebs and one of the things I found is that there with these dudes who were really into flying these different contraptions and it was all kinds of different stuff contraption is a great word right because they’re not really planes they are mostly either a powered parachute and I’m talking a guy with a parachute and then he has a propeller on his back like a backpack that is a propeller and you can fly all around the world on this thing well you can fly like around a county with it so it’s for people who are obsessed enough with flying to strap a fan to their back and some wings above them but not obsessed enough to get a proper license yeah yeah there were actual licensed kids to money mortos and trust me once you get into this and you start reading what these guys say about it it’s like they’re say you’re one with you’re like a bird this is as close as you can be to being a bird in fact there’s a movie called fly away home which is about geese being led back home by an ultra-light and this was an ultralight trike which is basically a tricycle with a big hang glider wing on it and you’re reading all this stuff over the course of all of them like I mean like five days I read oh no no you got to give me more credit than that I read not I mean it’s not that I’m not read about them for weeks then I contacted a guy in Erlin who was doing lessons but before you contacted him you were talking to me about it oh yeah I was in and man I agreed to go to Erwin and to get on one of these things I was like how much does it cost you were like $300 you get to go I was like I’ll go up once and see if I catch the fever but I’m not gonna really read anything before I go but I had mine priced out and everything I had a ballistic parachute that was gonna be attached to it like your personal one not there yeah yeah yeah because you got a altimeter on this thing GPS I mean there was a guy who went all the way from North America to to England United Kingdom on one of these things he went over the Atlantic North Atlantic yeah it so anyway yes I still want to do this I’ll tell you the thing that stopped me on this one the thing that stopped me on this one was the fact that I’m a family man and then every time I got really close to doing it is when I realized that you know this is how John Denver died you know was it John Denver died in an ultra-light yeah really mm-hmm there’s no country roads take me home he apparently was straight down into the ocean ran into it I think it was a side of a mountain probably cuz a Rocky Mountain High joke about John Denver’s death I don’t think yeah I don’t think there’s anyone who’s like upset right now so I was just like okay this may not be the best idea on that one but that’s a layer because you might die at any moment I could get right back into that I am so close they do it out in Ventura County mmm it’s bits where it’s the place to be yeah it’s amazing well we’re at a point where if it can be an episode of good mythical morning um and I don’t have to pay anything I’m very much in but I am a family man so I mean when the rubber we’re not gonna die or doesn’t meet the road anymore I really have to think about that you’re not gonna die the technology has improved over the past decade here’s another one chiropractic okay now for a normal person it’s like okay chiropractors I could see how you might do some research money but but in that an obsession or a lair was just a little bit different than saying well I went to a chiropractor it’s interesting because is it interesting I these are all interesting now otherwise I wouldn’t be interested in it but I will say I don’t believe I think a lot of stuff is pseudoscience including a lot of chiropractic medicine this whole idea that you’re the alignment of your spine will improve every part of your well-being I don’t I think that that’s wishful thinking and I don’t think there’s actual scientific support for that however and I just but there’s no need for them to push it that far because there is something there right right I just want to be clear that I went to a chiropractor who I do believe that there’s a certain portion of chiropractic medicine which is definitely legitimate medicine I mean they do they do x-rays of your back they do manipulation to move things and no stretches and strength exercises and that kind of thing you know I got a bad back I’ve had a bad back since I was in high school so starting in college I got interested in this and I was like this could be my thing you know I could go on a regular basis and I think in my day I’ve seen three or four different chiropractors but I wouldn’t call this an obsession there was a no you just said you just said there’s a thought that crossed your mind you said this could be my thing going to a chiropractor I thought it could you got excited thought it could be the thing that kept me pain-free oh but you didn’t think I’m gonna be a chiropractor no or go every week and that’ll be fun no I actually thought I was gonna go twice a week for an extended period of time but you didn’t do it I didn’t do that either because my insurance plan didn’t and didn’t have enough visits and so again I was I was prohibited did what you’ll find is that in most of these times it wasn’t my own decision that I moved on to the next thing I was prohibited from exploring it further what okay and we can move on but I don’t want to put you on the defensive I’m not being defensive I’m just been like explanitory I have to say why did it you know you seem to be defensive like well I would still be doing this if it wasn’t for something else and and the reason why is because well that’s the difference between an obsession and a layer a layer it’s a dormant layer I learned enough because this is one of the things that does happen with me I will say this I love to read write and and I’m always reading something and I I get okay here’s the difference between me and you right there’s a lot of difference between me and you as we’ve established but it our reading habits are very different right I’m currently reading eight books right like if you look at your bedside or maybe your Kindle if you do it that way there’s like a stack lucky there’s a physical stack by your bedside right well but I do a read on a digital stack right exactly I have my photo a high photo Maya do you read pictures iPhone iPhone library but for me like but I will say let me finish I have not finished any of those books and it is very likely that I won’t finish the majority of them because I get the idea of the book and like all right I see where you’re going buddy I’m on to the next book and for me if you look at my bedside or my Kindle there’s only gonna be one book on my bedside or one book within the Kindle even within the Kindle like I’ll clean them off cuz I don’t even want to see another book in the Kindle that I could read you’re joking when I read don’t click on it when I when I when I first got the Kindle first book I bought was Game of Thrones right like two and a half years later I was a reading Game of Thrones like I would read all the books but I was committed I’m gonna keep reading gamer phones and nothing else until I have exhausted it and I read i watch the the television show but I’ve read every single page of the books because I just want once I got there I was committed and I actually felt an obligation to keep doing it like saying well I get the idea I’m gonna move on to the next thing something I don’t know and I think this is a problem for me that I’m like I can’t move on well but a narrative work like Game of Thrones I mean you I’ll admit I read half of it and quit you can’t get the idea because you gotta mean you don’t know it in I read well I read mostly nonfiction and a lot of times you can’t get an idea right but I’ve moved on games just like man this is a long book it’s very good it’s very long I feel like if I commit every night to reading this book there’ll be like seven other books that I can’t get to and so then I get you know I get distracted and I go to these other books well interesting once I ran out of Game of Thrones I started reading like some nonfiction and it was most I can’t remember what it was but it was most likely something that you were reading at the time that you were talking to me about so then I just picked that up and started writing yeah I started Game of Thrones was like this is awesome and then you read everything and I’m still halfway through the first one right and then you recommend later you recommended another book and I can’t remember what it was but I guarantee you I read the whole thing just out of sense of obligation huh-uh no obligation to the author or the obligation to yourself because that you know they don’t keep up with whether or not you finish the book I can’t even say it’s it’s it’s a subconscious thing it’s like once you start something you got to finish it I don’t think there’s anything to apologize I mean I was loved to finish all the books but but my point was I read enough about chiropractic to know that this is probably not a completely legitimate enterprise and I know I’m probably you know upsetting people who are into chiropractic medicine but I was like yeah you know I’m I don’t think I’m gonna do do this a whole lot okay if that one’s a little controversial some people have different different opinions on chiropractic let’s go even more controversial guns oh yeah mm-hmm you had a you had a guns well my my father-in-law took us welcome my father-in-law has always had a bunch of guns right you know and he’s a guy from the the south and it’s not uncommon tonight uncle’s a hunter I mean he’s got cases of behind safe my father is not a hunter he’s just a gun owner and an elector just yeah he’s just a guy who has a lot of stuff and one of the things that he has a lot of is guns and this is really funny because I’m gonna say this in a way that is as sensitive as possible because it’s in reality it’s very is hilarious my sister fell in love with Chris my brother-in-law who is half Palestinian and half Lebanese she has since been married to him for 15 years or so okay and but right at the beginning of their relationship we a typical middle-eastern family when you meet one then you meet everyone right so we met Chris and then we are immediately introduced to all his cousins and aunts and uncles who lived in the raleigh-durham area okay and this keep in mind this is now first of all all of them not like in any of them are terrorists but but this was right after 9/11 like right after 9/11 like legitimately like we like nine twelve within the year within the year of 9/11 and we go out on some land with Chris’s family all these middle-eastern guys and we take all these assault rifles I’m not kidding oh wait they they had them and my father-in-law had him I mean just I’m talking like semi-automatic some some automatic guns just a bunch of guns and they bring a picture of Osama bin Laden because they’re anti I mean they’re anti Osama they’re gonna shoot this but and they’re gonna shoot the picture okay good but it was just a weird time of life you were there I was there and I was shooting a picture of Osama bin Laden with an Uzi [Laughter] I wasn’t there for this and I was out there on this land in the middle of Harnett County shooting these guns and I’m just like this is so weird but worthy but I was like this is fun there’s power behind unloaded some ammo yeah right hey you know we decided just target practice just out bunch of good ol boys when from the Middle East in London and at that point I was like you know what maybe you know maybe I should have some guns you know and again if you’re if you’re not from the United States and if you’re not from the south it I know one of the things I’ve learned in doing good morning and being on the internet and seeing all the comments from people people haven’t know they don’t understand gun culture in America and I don’t blame you okay so it’s it seems crazy but I got a gun I went to a I went to a gun shot went to the gun show at the NC State Fairgrounds dorten arena and I bought a 38 special which was a cop revolver so we’re talking about I didn’t get an Uzi I got a revolver it’s it has six bullets at a time and they revolved yes it’s the old style old-school kind of thing that Rosco P Coltrane would have had in his holster on Dukes of Hazzard or Rosco P Coltrane golf because Ray that’s what we calling his kids this is where it intersects me because you come back and you’re like I got a I bought a revolver and let’s go into the woods and shoot it and you should get one oh yeah and so here’s my pointer decision am i well how much is it that’s always my thing he’s like well how much I know you’re into this and that means I’m gonna be into it how much how much is my wallet gonna hurt and I realized that my my grandfather had a 357 Magnum as a sheriff’s deputy right and he’s myth and Wesson he had passed away a few years earlier and my I asked my grandma could I have his gun for mainly for sentimental reasons but then also to to have something to shoot whenever we went out into the woods you did some target practice yeah and I got that thing and I went out there that one time with you and it was fun until I had to fire the thing and it was the it was it was it was scary to me but it wasn’t fun to get kicked like a mule man yeah ain’t because you’re you had a 357 you had to step up from the from the 38 so well you had it was a magnum it was a 357 Magnum smaller bullet smaller caliber but more gunpowder okay I I didn’t I didn’t hate it but I was really bad at it and it was kind of there was quite a jolt to it so it didn’t take with me it didn’t take well wait I will say it didn’t necessarily take with me either I never bought another gun and I haven’t shot that gun um in 10 years but I still know how to and I’m ready at a moment’s notice okay so should I move on to the next one on the list here now this one’s related crow hunting yeah now this one this is do you hunt crows with a 38 well you’d have to be a really good shot you you hunt crows with a shotgun scatter pattern I was not involved in this no I was on the front very friendly and I’m at Black & Veatch lots of stuff happened when I was an engineer that was ingeniero boredom breeds recession so somehow I stumble upon this website where these guys out in the Midwest are hunting crows at the request of farmers out there because crows destroy crops and there’s a lots of them there’s no population problem with the crows but there’s a kind more than we can handle so there’s no limit in some states there’s no limit on how many crows you can shoot and so these dudes will just go out and they’ll just kill like 50 crows because the farmer wants them dead they’re like pests it’s like pest control but you know you start shooting that many birds you feel like well we should do something with these birds we should eat them um so there’s all these crow recipes now the thing I found now I’m reading about this is that crows are extremely intelligent now they’re not some smart as us they are birds and they’re not as smart as dolphins or anything like that but you can teach a crow to talk just like a parrot a crow is incredibly intelligent it has an amazing vocabulary you can teach a crow to talk and teach a crow to say things like you can if you can teach a crow to say those kinds of things and first of all just to clear it up a little bit yeah Polly doesn’t want a cracker how do you how do you know that since when does Polly want a cracker but go ahead a crow is incredibly smart has an incredible vocabulary and what this lends itself to is shooting it you can draw a crow in using its own vocabulary trick a crow now let me this is fascinating okay this is one of the reasons I got into this there are these tapes that you can buy okay mm-hmm they an audio track where you can create a situation they’ve they’ve recorded crows or they’ve made crow sounds of a certain scenario that will cause a bunch of crows to come in so what they do is they have this thing crows do you know that crows hate owls owls and crows are arch-rivals do they eat each other they well they’re they’re they’re they compete for the same mice there is a tape that you can get at soundtrack that is an owl attacking a baby crow no and so you hear the sound of the owl and then you hear a baby crow crying a distress call and then it brings in hundreds of crows depending on where you’re at oh really so the idea that you could do this and you set up a fake owl there too oh yeah oh and fake a crow yeah right yeah I’m glad you remember more than I do well you told me about you’re trying to get me to do it yeah yeah you get a fake owl and this is a three-dimensional owl a three-dimensional out and then you can get the three-dimensional crows or you can get the two dimension I made two dimensional crows I bought poster for instruction but at a construction paper poster board and I made these things and so you should put him on a stick and then I didn’t you just jab them down into the ground and I took it on the cowl yeah I took a boom box and I bought a bullhorn and I took the boom box apart I wired the boom the audio the audio wires instead of going to the speaker’s in the boom box I wired them directly to a bullhorn and so I could play it really loudly if you ever wonder if your boyfriend husband or acquaintance is bored and you see him building crows out of poster board and booming crow cells from a boom box your answer is yes okay so but again I’m banned all that means energy somebody disappoint you first of all again yeah so you build all this stuff you go out you set up the scene I gonna layer the crow sale I go out with a good friend of mine from work Sean Collins and he goes out there with me and we didn’t know what we were doing we expected dozens of crows that come in we had like one crow come in and he knew it and he looked down there news like that’s poster board and he flew away we shot at him in English was he and so I never killed a crow I’m sure that’s a relief to those of you who were worried about how many crows I was gonna kill I never killed a crow and it’s so smart and then it because I’m just not good at it but I was so interested in it here’s what happened and this is a this is a microcosm of what has happened with me and you within a number of the number of times Sean Collins I left Black & Veatch and Sean Collins we just done it with me had just done this crow hunting he carried the torch and he became like an incredible Crow hunter crows stalker this dude he you gave him your boom box didn’t you I said you can have it and he got other dudes into it and I don’t know if they still do it to this day but there was like a little community of guys who were like home none of which man in your wake of obsession he was like created a covey you bought the tape she made the contraption you made those things out of poster board you’ve got the Al let me have all that and he still does it well I like to think that he still does it he’s like got his whole reality he’s controlling the crow population of North Carolina crow man but that was that was and you know this that what happens is I get interested in something and if there are their stuff associated with it you get this stuff you got to get the stuff or you got to make the stuff yeah that’s when something really gives me if there’s stuff involved cuz I want to get that stuff oh you know what wait wait you can make crows out of poster board I mean really okay here’s another one of this I got to get back into that it’s probably illegally this is not healthy I should not be it’s like I’m Condry in the over the course of an hour I’m conjuring up your emotions associated every single layer at one spike yeah you’re gonna you’re gonna explode I gotta go to sleep tonight I’m afraid of what you’re gonna try to get me into in the morning okay okay next on this wine pairings yeah wine pairings yeah uh I’m a fan of wine you know that I like to drink it with my meals well yeah I mean I’ve seen you’ve had a glass of wine I would never call you a fan of wine or a wine aficionado but I got close to becoming but you thought you thought about what it would be like if you became close to coming to come in one uh once I figured out that there was this there was a whole world of people who experimented with pairing wine with food because that that’s when wine really opens up right when you start pairing your food and that’s what the menus say yeah but and you know there are no rules with you there used to be you had this kind of meat with this kind of wine or that’s what but and there are no rules it’s whatever it takes best to you but interestingly there there were these apps in books even before apps there were books that suggested wine pairings and I kind of I got a little obsessed I I did think oh this is so this is something I could get into again if there’s if there’s something you can learn and sometime you coming by and something you can do I mean what about it it was great it in you know I I don’t I don’t but the fat so what about it what I mean was you were intrigued by the fact that you could take this certain you could take a pork chop and you could buy this wine and you could consume them together and experience something something better something better of the better yeah I grew up drinking milk with spaghetti house you know but it’s just like no you get this right wine and they interact there’s synergy happening in your meal right I’m laughing I know this is true I mean I accept this but so what happened well what happened was is you know that’s a rather rather expensive hobby yeah your pork chops are expensive and you know that’s the wine and honestly you gotta have somebody to do this with you know my wife is not a big wine drinker she doesn’t she doesn’t really enjoy wine and so you buy a bottle of wine you break it open and you’re the only one drinking you’re gonna it’s gonna be over pretty soon you’re gonna be asleep you know and so I’d you know I’d we have some wine we drink it occasionally try to make pairings but it just this is this is the thing and I think this is where we’re going with this I’m kind of processing this okay if you I get interested in a lot of things but if I’m gonna stick with it I gotta have some partner I gotta have to eat them you have to get into it or my wife has to get into it and if neither one of you get into it I’m probably gonna move on yeah I and we know that and we don’t take that lightly but that’s not gonna stop me from continuing to get into stuff I mean we like to make fun of you but I mean what I try to say at the beginning was I appreciate well I said I appreciate I said I appreciate it but I appreciate the fact that you’re an ideas guy I think this dovetails with that that I would be content to just live my simple little life and do my simple little routine and make make the crevices in my brain deeper and not form any new connections and to my own detriment mm-hmm I don’t like that about myself so I like interfacing with someone let’s call that person who says okay it is excited so okay if I don’t like this thing well he’s gonna present me with something and that’s exciting and if I don’t like it well I can say that and because it’ll be something else next week true and it’s great it’s true yeah so if you every this is a good arrangement and if you ever get interested in that thing again like if we go through this list tonight and you’re like you know I’d like to get back into wine pairings I’m like buddy I got the app I’m ready I need to redownload it but water you’ve got to unearth that layer and yeah bring it you’ve got a toilet together to expose that layer I would love to have I mean I had some dark chocolate and I you know I’d love to pair that with some yerba mate eh I’d like to get real experimental with this mm-hmm okay no but I I’m open to that but let’s move on all right there’s plenty to go fossils in geology now I want to say that this is something I’ve never lost interest in this I’ve been interested in geology ever since I took a class in college ever since Ted McKinney gave you an arrowhead on the Royal ambassador’s hiking trip well that’s archaeology that’s not really geology I mean I guess indirectly as geology because it was at one point a rock but well okay smarty-pants I’m talking you know the layers of the earth you see that I’ve got layers one of my layers is the layers of the earth itself okay a meta joke and I am fascinated by the history of the earth I’m fascinated by geological formations and I am fascinated by fossils and I’ve got a couple some trial of bites I don’t know how many millions of years of the old they are I knew at one point they’re in a safe and home at home but and why why why is it a trilobite or a trilobite in a safe why isn’t in it why isn’t it out on your coffee table well I’ll have it somebody gonna steal it I have a safe that has things in it that mean a lot to me and it I don’t have a way to display this I hope one day to have a man cave of sort of sorts and you’re gonna have you’re gonna take what’s in the safe and you’re gonna put it in case yes okay in the man cave there will be a lot of hawkman paraphernalia memorabilia what there there lies another layer and there will be fossils you can go on eBay and for a pretty penny you can get like a small dinosaur skull fossil really you can also get light replicas of like a t-rex that I made out of resin or whatever they’re still expensive but not the real thing full-size yes really yeah you have to build it yourself I mmm I mean the head will come as one thing but I want a man cave that’s got like these up lit dinosaur fossils you know you’re walking around in a museum I want that someday what about studio but but okay we can do in the studio too but the reason I’m fascinated with it is because it’s it’s incredible I get it it’s incredible to hold something in your hands that lived you know a hundred million years ago that’s fascinating all that in your hand I mean I I could uh I mean depending on the cost I could buy I could start a trilobite collection but here’s the thing if I bought one I would buy as many as Merle Haggard records as I’ve bought like we’re both equally into Merle Haggard but who bought all the Merle Haggard records me you probably said oh that would be cool to buy one but I’m just gonna listen to Merle Haggard and I’m like no I’m gonna go on eBay and I’m gonna obsess and I’m gonna buy sixty-five records and then I’m gonna hang them meticulously on our wall but fossils are more expensive than exactly so I I know I can’t buy one because I can’t buy just one but but I do respect it and you know camping and I think we’ll get back to the whole camping thing because it comes to another layer but I do it dovetails with when you get into nature and you’re seeing those things IIIi can see that when I look very close to that one I turn rocks over all the time I’ve never found a fossil in the wild that’s a dream of mine or an arrowhead I have found an arrowhead it’s not a fossil red that’s not a father yeah yeah it’s an artifact so I get it but let’s move on alright next on my list Crown Victorias Oh buddy Crown Victoria now when you say Crown Victoria in this context especially after talking about like fossils and weighty stuff like that I think people are thinking like Oh like royalty or something like all is a historical obsession of some sort like this weaned Victoria this is a Ford car the cop car cops drive cops still drive them but they used to it’s a quintessential cop or government car and can i what what what you the listener is thinking right now is how could anyone obsession it’s like okay I get fossils wine pairings yeah there there’s people who are really into these things you can read books about this stuff you don’t go to the Barnes & Noble and find a section devoted to Crown Victoria Ford cop cars how on earth could you have an obsession and you admit to this right yeah I still want one okay and this is gonna sound crazy to you listeners I actually back in the early 2000s created a savings account a money market account back when IGN direct remember that then they Capital One bought them but okay you could start a money market account back when money market accounts could actually generate some some interest and there comes a point I was I’m gonna save some money for something and what could that be and let me figure it came time to name the account in a name the account Crown Victoria why because I wanted one okay now why did I want one first of all so you were saving up to buy one oh it I think I called the account Crown Victoria slash vacation it was like we need to save some money we I gotta get a car at some point I gotta get a new car at some point for myself because you know I was driving that old Cadillac remember that yeah I drove that Cadillac that I had to buy the heater that you plugged into the AC adapter yeah the cigarette cigarette lighter it was a cigarette lighter heater I drove a Cal was down by your feet touch it was those were they cold I drove a Cadillac DeVille it was Burger D four-door and the heat and they neither the heat nor the a/c worked so I got this thing lit cigarette lighter well cigarette lighter worked and it blew like a really weak stream of hot air I was like one foot so I needed a new car and I saw I started reading about new cars and I was like I want a big car with a big I was always one of the car with enough legroom and I wanted to sedan I like a car to do a car drives and I want a big trunk you see you have those three requirements next thing you know you’re looking at crown vics you like Google these things oh and then I find how all the car with legroom Headroom and room for my heater buy my gas foot what I found is that because these are government and police vehicles that you can get them in auctions so you can go to a police auction and you can get a Crown Vic this still is black and white just like an old cop car but doesn’t have the lights on top anymore and that seems to me to be a bad thing now okay yes you’re on the interstate and I everyone slowing down in front of you I thought many yeah but it’s a little bit of a power trip okay the guy slows down and then he moves over and then you go past him you’re like I’m not a cop I’m sure dude who bought a car at an auction got you sucka it you’re telling me about the chain drop it has it no it has a chain belt as a chain timing belt as opposed to a rubber timing belt which wears out over time has a chain so these things are just indestructible that’s why cops have them you can just go you can chase people through rivers you can go through creeks you can spin out in the middle of the median and they’re just indestructible cars with a lot of legroom a big trunk and a lot of horsepower and so I really wanted one and my wife thought it was ridiculous again a lot of these things had been tipped a tempered by the people in my life and that’s one of them my wife was like I don’t want you to get a old cop car what are you crazy but you know we did interview a guy remember this guy we interviewed not too long ago for some position I can’t remember what it was but we didn’t hire him though we asked him what he drove and he said I’d Drive a Gold Crown Victoria it was like a former taxi and I was like what no it was just a gold you almost hired him on the spot yeah and so like I could see it in your eye and then he said I said really and we talked about crown vics for a while and then he was like yeah you want me to drive by the front of the office on the way out I was like heck yeah I want you to and so when you drove out I mean we didn’t hire him but you got a thrill so close because of that Crown Vic okay Wow can we take a moment and just think about what just happened I’m glad you owned it what car did you get when you didn’t get a Crown Vic sidenote Scion you got the silent yeah which now I Drive a SIA mm-hmm there you go if I Drive we got a follow up Scion to that one but you know I got it because of the Headroom and Al unbelievable Headroom and legroom I got it you got it on auction that it was a it was a total yeah next on the list I don’t remember this one sailing yes still fascinated about sailing just last night I was looking at a book that my wife bought for me a couple years ago because she knows I’m fascinated with this sailing around the world this is a book where a couple goes around the world and they document there for their photographers and they document every location they went around the entire world it’s absolutely amazing the reason I got into sailing is because I did some research on what my name meant McGlothlin and McGlothlin means master sailor and so really I was like boy I got to get into this because I got to live up to my name be a master sailor and just the idea of a sailboat that could go anywhere untethered go around the world go meet new place new people in new places I’ve always been fascinated with it as far as I got on this one is about a few books I read a book called sailing alone around the world which is a great book we want to do that I know I don’t want to do that I’m a little bit of an introvert but I but I don’t want to sail alone around the world you want to go we can document the whole thing it’s gonna take a long time I mean with the right sponsor I might be redbull what about like sailboats okay some sail boats boats dock copy won’t pay for it but I’m fascinated with it and as far as I got with that I would like to take a yacht around the world about that well that’s pollution man it takes gas it cost some money okay okay this sailboat is beautiful because it’s powered by the wind and the farthest I got on that is I took a sailing class at Harris Lake remember that remember that link well I remember the class right and I think what you mean by class is like a three-hour introductory introduction to sentient ation yeah intro to sailing you there was no a class of something you go to and you leave and you come back to it on a scheduled basis well I took a call eight eight class I went to class one time you you out they sailed me around there wasn’t a lot of wind that day but this but they let they let us go around now just as I’ve got more on the list but just as a side note it occurs to me this phenomenon that we’re exploring tell me what you think about this okay if you did not if your brain didn’t work this way if your personality wasn’t this way I don’t believe that we would be doing good mythical morning right now hmm because I remember that the impetus for doing good morning chilling can was let’s just I let’s just come in and talk about stuff every morning and let’s just see what happens and it would just like us we were in between projects right and we had a certain we had a couple of months as an experiment we had a couple of months and we we on the way into work every morning you would always have something to talk about because well for this reason there was always something you were thinking about and then it was like why do why are we just having these conversations we should bring people is this let’s bring people into this and so I said I don’t even need to ask you I certainly believe that we wouldn’t be where we are if you bring it and work the way it did now I you know I’m gonna own some part in this too but I do think that I mean it’s an interesting phenomenon that that was that it kind of gave us the blind confidence to say we’re going to every morning we’re going to literally show up turn the camera on and just talk about something because the you always had something that you always had three things oh I’ll just pick one that I can talk about you know I’ve always and I’ve always got an opinion about it so that gave me confidence say okay we’re just having the same conversation that we had rolling into work we’re just gonna have it when we get to work and we would actually be silent on the way into work and save things for that conversation and I’m glad that we did that but my question is are some of these things you’re defensive it seems defensive to me when you’re like well you only took one class and then you know I haven’t sailed since then but I still had that book and I read the book last night but is there part of you that the validation is not really in completing things but is there something about just being able to talk about things is there is there an ulterior or at least a side motive maybe that’s the same thing if the main motive is you’re you’re interested and you just have passions that wandering passions but there’s a side thing that’s like I just like to know things I like to be able to talk about things I like to be the guy that knows just enough about a lot of things to talk to anybody about anything is that a motive I can honestly answer you did it is not it’s not it is not I I’ll admit my faults I have many well I I don’t think that’s a fault no no no I’m saying I will admit my I meant my faults and I have many but no I don’t I I don’t like being I don’t like seeming like a know-it-all I know that I come across that way because I do have an opinion about a lot of things and I don’t even know that that’s not what I was that I wasn’t saying do you want to be in no no I’m saying do you like to engage people and love to talk to people about a lot of different things and I’d like to be able to contribute in different conversations about different disciplines and different interests but I really think you know that thing we did earlier this year we did this personality evaluation with Jason jagged and my number one thing was futurist yeah meaning my mind is always in the future and I actually spend more of my time thinking about anticipating things I spend more of my time in the future than I do in the president actually I have a very difficult time enjoying anything in the moment and I think that the thing that you’ll notice about most of these things is that they are somehow related to an experience that I kind of create in my mind and I think one of these days I’m gonna fly in an ultra-light and that’s gonna be fun one of these days I’m going to sail around the world and that’s gonna be fun one of these days I’m going to kill a crow or I’m going to pair the perfect wine with that there are experiences that I set up in my mind and I think that I’m gonna have experienced some sort of satisfaction and so I actually I begin to anticipate the satisfaction I anticipate the fulfillment of these things and so then I learn about them because you need to know what you need to know about these things in order to experience them in the right way and then what ends up happening is that life happens right you end up being normal you know I can’t be a guy that flies in an ultra-light and sails around the world and has a Crown Vic and Crow hunts on a regular basis and all these other things because it’s just you can’t do that there’s only so many things we can do between the work that we do and family life so a lot of these things are just passions they’re just interests and I’ll just read a book about sailing and think well maybe when I retire I’ll actually do that so I honestly think it’s just my disposition is future-oriented and so I’m interested in these things not because I’m waiting for the wait to go to a party and talk to somebody who’s a sailor and be like oh I know all about this let me tell you about this Seychelles I read about him he’d been there I think that’s an interesting dynamic I think is in an insight into you or maybe a misconception of you that people would say you know for someone who has always something to offer or a detail to offer it is okay you could say he’s being a know-it-all maybe he’s not I’m not saying you are know-it-all I’m saying people could say he’s being a know-it-all okay but I think it’s interesting to find out that if you if that you’re honest what’s honestly driving is just in well what you just said it kind of it dissolves that at least a little bit well I know and I will say that and we’ve learned this being friends for a really long time and working together for a long time is that you begin to see people ask why are you guys how have you guys been friends for so long and why do you guys keep doing this entertainment thing you know people come and go on YouTube and you guys kind of right from the beginning and you’re still relevant right there’s this search for relevance and one of the things that we’ve said many times and Hank green made this observation when we talked to him at VidCon a lot of times when you look at people who have been doing something for a while on YouTube it’s it’s a partnership right and so there’s this dynamic that’s like I’m gonna be interested in a lot of different things you are going to have a sense of follow-through so when we decide to do something it’s going to happen it’s going to land it’s going to be finished and that’s not something that we could have ever anticipated or planned but I think that the reason that we have an idea that gets completed versus just a bunch of ideas that never actually come to fruition is it is is that is the partnership and so you know hey if you’re if you’re thinking about trying to do I just I don’t think that you can I just don’t think you can do it alone I mean I certainly can’t imagine it I’m gonna list out a couple of other things here and we’ll pick the ones that you want to talk about but I will say one last side note in this is a byproduct of your friend this phenomenon is I think that people ask you things like ask your opinion because they assume that you’re gonna know something because you know about things that you know about people end up asking you these things and there’s a lot more of a opportunity for you to hone your ability to BS a great answer to things oh yeah I saw I observed that as a byproduct of this whole thing or could that be the motive I just wanna I want to know enough stuff so that I can be asked my way through everything else of course that’s I know I’m just I’m just giving you a hard time alright here we go I’ve got 1 2 3 4 5 more things on my list we do it you know we’re not gonna talk about all five of these okay I’m gonna read them and I’d like for you to pick one maybe one and a half how about I give you a sentence about each one well I want you to you know and I’ll dig it will dig into one or if you want to dig into one and then pick one to close with okay so in no particular order I’ll read these out to you and you can tell me which ones you you’re intrigued to go back to after sailing I have barbecue hot yoga hmm oh yeah juicing okay paddleboarding yeah for weally I’ll say a sentence about each one okay you just can’t choose and then we can and then we can close on the one that me there’s two that me and you are experiencing together elastic okay so barbecue I’m really into barbecue and you know from our song that barbecue is a noun and it’s not a verb but it’s not a grill it is a meat to prepared in a very special way and I came out here to California and I found that they don’t know how to do barbecue they think barbecue means a grill or they think it means hotdogs and hamburgers or even a party and I’m missed North Carolina style barbecue pulled pork slow smoked pork shoulder and I figured out how to do it myself and now it’s something I do on a semi-regular basis I figured out that I went to amazing ribs calm a crazy guy named meathead he had me to head Godwin I think is his God when is his last name meathead obviously a nigga who happens to be in Chicago of course I know about this guy because you’ve gotten so deep into this one that like I just limit it to a sin I’m here sorry anyway I figured out how to do this it’s in it is a passion now to Greek create authentic North Carolina style barbecue you’re not charlie aren’t using a charcoal Grill I bought a thing called again there’s a thing you can buy I have a Weber grill kettle grill I bought a smoke inator mm and a series of special meat thermometers yes and a special magnet that goes on your refrigerator that tells you meat temperatures well that’s just a the receiver of the yeah I’m actually buying that no the magnet the meathead magnet anyway okay hot yoga again my well this was a lot of times there’s an experience that leads to me having an interest and this was making commercial kings we went to where was that Sacramento California Sacramento we made a hot yoga commercial for sandy and what was his name well I can’t remember but it was it was a Rambo themed Rambo slash a-team themed local commercial with like a 78 year old man who was missing a finger and this is a form of yoga called Bikram yoga and there’s a dude who’s more than a little bit crazy who came up with this thing that there’s these like 26 different yoga moves that you do under extreme heat like over a hundred degrees and you go and you said it’s a – it’s an hour and hour and a half class I think and there was you know we did it with this dude and I was like this would be great for me I need to do some of the comedy but then you come back home and you sign up for a class oh I went to the class and I went to the class a number of times and then we did move we did move to the other side of town and I never went back the class to the class once and then you vomited no I went to the class like five or six times and vomited five or six times no III didn’t vomit I got very close to it sounds fun you seen but but here’s how but here’s how and again I’m not being defensive I’m just being I’m just explaining things I don’t do hot yoga anymore but a number of those yoga moves that I did in that class I retain those I do them every single morning for the treatment of my my herniated disc problem which brings us back to chiropractic and how smart crows are yes juicing juicing I watched a movie about juicing one of those Netflix documentaries it makes you think that you can that you can do something and change everything and so what I do what you can do something in change everyday right that’s the definition of a documentary right and this is I do this a lot I watched a documentary I watched this documentary and the guy talks about juicing can change your life which I no longer believe that after after having read about it a lot after you know it’s there its controversial but I bought a juicer I did something you would never do which is I watched the documentary and within not not within 24 hours within 24 minutes of the documentary going off Netflix I went on Amazon and order the juicer and my wife and I used it for a couple of months and now it’s just sitting up there above the sink and I would hate that juicer if it was in my house and that was and yeah I hate it I would hate it and I would hate myself why would it was there and that’s why I didn’t buy one but why would you hate it because it I would see it as a failure to me it’s an opportunity I could juice it at any time right I mean maybe that’s my problem now I have a juiced since paddle boarding now in the mythical show half-hour show we did last year we wanted to explore some segments that were outside of the studio you had had this idea to do paddle boarding and you’d mentioned in me multiple times but the way you got me onboard literally was you finally through Erica and our management team got a paddle board company to hook us up with some paddle boards for free and I’m like I’m in now buddy and we had tried a year before you remember that and it didn’t work yeah we couldn’t get any response but s UPA TX hooked us up with a couple of boards we made a segment for the mythical show and that was all that was all you’re doing because of some paddle boarding idea you had I saw a picture you saw a picture I saw a picture with I can’t a dentist off a dude in an incredible location on the paddleboard and I was like what I gotta do that how do I do that and then we’ve documented the process of us doing it it was nothing like that but we’ve got a lot better but I stuck with you so I’ll take some credit for this I you know because of this that dynamic once I was in and once we both had the boards and it was hanging in my garage always the kid used that board you had the stuff I had this stuff yeah so now we’ve each got two boards now but and we should go in the morning but we will once you have the stuff and once you have the stuff because your sense of obligation you read a book because you think the author is waiting for you to finish the book you’re gonna use that board because you like walk in fact if you don’t use the board you’re gonna delete the board like a file right you’re gonna get rid of the board you’re gonna sell it on Craigslist or don’t look I don’t want to it have that failure or not follow through follow staring me in the face and and that’s something I enjoy immensely now and we both enjoy it and we do it on a regular basis yeah and four-wheeling the last one on the list our friend Nick who I went mountain biking with a lot when I used to mountain bike now that we got into four-wheel 8 and it’s very difficult to do for wheeling is like mountain biking but in a truck and once you do that it’s very difficult to go back to mountain biking it’s like I need two more wheels and like an air conditioning yeah and like a couch to sit on a bike steering wheel in front but so great yeah so he took us to Death Valley and when we came back you didn’t tell me it was like classic five days later that’s like for the past five days I’ve been doing extensive research on what off-road vehicle we should buy yeah right so he had been researching it from the moment we got back from Death Valley but he knew not to present to me the data until he had found a place where we could get in what which I was actually just down the street and I kind of rolled my eyes but I was like okay this is gonna happen I mean we had it we were gonna buy you we needed another vehicle that Bronco was a failure right it was ridiculous and what a good buddy and now it’s like I’m thinking when are we getting what am I gonna go camping you like it’s opened up a whole world for like sometimes me and my family take the FJ Cruiser sometimes you and your family take it sometimes me and you and the boys take it yeah and sometimes I guess that’s it but you know it’s it’s opened up a world yeah that’s incredible how I love it man and I would never I would never have bought a a truck that’s not that’s ridiculous it was totally worth it but okay but in so here’s my question for you because we were gonna close this down in a second here’s my question for you okay I’ve eaten all my dark chocolate so there obviously there is there’s mutual benefit to to this right I bought the truck what we bought the truck right we went in together both because I thought we got if we get this truck then the next thing you know we’ll be like 4-wheel freaks and now it’s this thing that we can potentially potentially but is that a word potentially yeah I think so yes in crow language do it on a on a regular basis it do you think okay if you were to subtract me from the equation I do not believe say that if you were to subtract me from the equation fat dumb and happy you just be sitting there I would be not dumb and I just I I don’t think that’s true here’s why I think that what happens is is that when you’re in a friendship with someone as long as we’ve been in the friendship you begin to rely on one another in a way that’s just like okay it was certain aspects of our job I say don’t develop strengths that the other guy has I see something I’m like I’m not gonna even try to figure that out like I don’t want to sit here and toil over this edit or this graphic or this thumbnail because I know that link already has an opinion about it and just let him do that you know what I mean I think that you end up develop you you you kind of embrace the fact that you’re like that person is gonna kind of handle this so I think that you’ve kind of been like I don’t have to seek new interests because I have a friend who’s going to bring me a buffet of new interest on a regular basis but I think if I wasn’t in the situation you would have in it you would have developed your own interests so I hope I’m not but I do I have observed that there are people like that so I know it’s possible and so I could I could be one of those people I don’t know does it matter I mean are you are you concerned about like my level of self-esteem or do you think it goes further that it’s like it has anything to it self-esteem I think it just has to do with I just think it has to do with just a disposition like do you think that you should you shouldn’t depend on me to bring everything to the table you should come up with some you should you should explore your own things is that it do you I don’t know I don’t even think that I don’t necessarily think that I think that if I would have to I would have to focus more on follow-through if you weren’t here and you would have to focus more on finding something new to be interested in if I wasn’t here yeah I mean I certainly so I don’t know you know I don’t know the I think there’s ways for us still to grow to where we can’t we don’t have to be like we don’t atrophy in a certain area like I don’t atrophy because our entire lives don’t overlap I mean there’s there’s like take being a father or a husband there are things that are very much those parts of our lives don’t overlap near as much as our work life and which dovetails to a lot of our hobbies like paddleboarding or camping or things like that that I certainly shouldn’t let my assess for life and willingness to engage potential passions atrophy because that will happen you know I want to be the type of father that does that that inspires [Music] creativity and a sense of adventure and my children and so I think I think that is a good lesson for me that okay I’ve got the benefit of someone let’s just say that’s you who can inspire me to be more of that in another circle say with my family type of thing and so maybe in the same way the opposite for you that you know I don’t know what that maybe fill in the blank but I do I think that’s I think that’s the healthy one healthy application here and I have another one too but go ahead I was gonna say I observe this you know now that we’ve got kids I observe this in my children most it is most evident in Locke because he’s older mm-hmm and Locke is just he gets he gets on something and if anything is I never realized this about myself until I got older I started thinking about it but right like you were telling me today that he’s obsessed with exotic cars yeah right and this was out of nowhere and this had nothing to do with me you know III just watching exotic you know large on YouTube I like Crown Victorias and I like trucks that can go four-wheeling I’m not a big sports car guy right but I was as a kid you know draw sports cars and had sports cars but it’s kind of beside the point he found this on his own this on his own and he’s super passionate about it now but the thing I’ve observed is that he will go move on to the next thing you know he was super into poking Pokemon he was in he was in the Legos he was into these things and he’s in the Minecraft right now and I’ll tell you I’ll cut you off I know where you’re going it’s you’re saying well then as a parent you need to foster some follow-through that everything is not a mile wide and an inch deep it’s fascinating how like Lincoln is so much like me and their interaction that the conversations they have are so much like the conversations that we have now about oh locks like you know I’m in the I’m in the Lamborghinis now like minecraft not so much and Lincoln’s like this morning at breakfast I was like Lincoln what are you thinking about and at the same time we were like Minecraft it’s like I totally knew that because that’s what he’s been thinking about for the past three right and that’s why I got a certain capacity for a Minecraft and then he’s gonna be like I’m kind of ready for something else right it’s interesting the things that even at our age the things that we’re learning have a direct application to shaping other the lives of other humans but not only which are our children but also each other in this conversation and I’ll say the the second thing is just I think I’m taking with this conversation just an appreciation you know that I do appreciate that okay you’re gonna bring something to the table that’s gonna be fun there’s something you know there’s something new it’s like I would hate to do the same type of job every day I would hate to have the same type of thoughts every day I would hate to have to come up with all those different thoughts if I hated to have the same thoughts so it’s nice to have someone else who is a catalyst for that type of thing so that that’s exciting and I don’t mean to relate it all back to work but we kind of know when it comes to certain topics we want to discuss and give them with a good morning who’s gonna take those things and why and I think that there’s certain fascinating elements of good mythical morning that come through because of things that you’re engaged in I think we can sit here and have a conversation for the next hour about how all isn’t this so sweet but we should probably wrap it up a and I would say in the effort to relate it to anybody’s listening let’s do that I think part I think part of this is that you know if you’re an ear biscuits listener I would hope that one of the things we want to convey is that alright you know we’re in our mid 30s we’re probably significantly older than most of the people who are listening to this podcast not that it’s for younger piece for everybody it’s just the way the internet works and there’s a lot of things that we’ve kind of learned being friends for this long and I think one of those things is that you tend to there’s a combination of things that you that you have in friends in friendships that last there’s gonna be common interest first of all there’s gonna be like you’re interested in the same things and you see the world enough the same way so that there’s less not that you kind of connect with one another but then I think that when you think about your friendships appreciate the differences because the same differences that you have with the people who are your friends are going to be things that they’re they can be frustrations hmm right the fact that we’re different from one another and we see things a little bit differently about things and you get so focused on something and I might have to like shake you loose and introduce you to a new thing that could be frustrating to me and my distraction and move on to the next thing can be frustrating to you but those things that make can can be a weakness in a friendship ultimately can be a strength so as you think about the friendships that that you have the people who are your friends with you think about the conflict what are the sources of conflict in your friendship or your relationships a lot of times those were going to be opportunities for a stronger stronger friendship mmm you know I think that that’s that’s nothing he’s taking us a long time to learn that about one another and kind of yeah like this is what he does and this is what I do and it’s different and it’s good and it but still a little funny you know so we can have a good time talking about and I’m glad we had this here biscuit I’m glad you were here for this so people you have your assignment go into your research tonight ultralights chiropractic Gunz crow hunting wine pairings fossils geology crown victorious good sailing barbecue hot yoga juicing paddle boarding and four-wheeling and if you stick around for another 30 minutes I bet you something else will be added by someone here to the list but you don’t have to you can count on us being here every week and next week we’ll probably 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