Madison Beer Eats Her Last Meal

Channel: Mythical Kitchen

YouTube Video ID: vWdEfGsgMjQ

Episode Post Date: March 31, 2026

Transcript

I'm Madison Beer, and this is my last
meal.
>> [bell]
>> Every person has exactly two things in
common. We all got to eat, and we're all
going to die. Today's guest is a
platinum-selling, two-time Grammy
Award-nominated singer, songwriter,
producer, and author. Her third studio
album, Locket, is out now, and she
embarks on tour in May, where she'll no
doubt fall asleep to the sounds of
Gordon Ramsay screaming in between
cities. Madison Beer, welcome to the
show. You know about my Kitchen
Nightmares obsession?
>> Yeah, that is a crazy thing that you do
is fall asleep to Kitchen Nightmares
episodes.
>> So, now I'm doing Vanderpump Rules.
>> Oh. Which is kind of equally crazy and
chaotic.
>> say more chaotic for different reasons.
>> Totally.
>> Have you watched Vanderpump Rules?
>> I certainly have, and then I've been to
You've been to the bars and the
restaurants and I have. Sir, Pump, all
of it.
>> Yeah, have you been Have you been to
Jax's in the Valley then?
>> been to Jax's in the Valley. I know. I
know I need to do like a tour bus
Vanderpump Rules tour.
>> People say it Well, it's like um people
think it's a money-laundering scheme.
It's not. It's a perfectly legitimate
bar from a legitimate businessman. We're
definitely going to get sued, and that's
totally fine.
>> But, yes, now I'm on Vanderpump Rules.
Once it was Dance Moms, then it was
Kitchen Nightmares. I go through phases
of like a year where I just watch one
show. What is it about those shows that
specifically lull you to sleep?
>> know. I think I just It's honestly just
whatever I'm watching. And I became
really obsessed with Kitchen Nightmares.
Have you seen the Amy's Baking Company?
>> I was going to bring up Amy's Baking
Company.
>> me into it. Totally.
>> I think it's the greatest love story
ever told.
>> Best. And their cats. And now I have two
cats, so I understand Amy on like a
deeper level, where I'm like, "Meow,
meow, meow." I talk to my cats.
>> to your cats. Yeah, yeah.
>> Totally. So, I get her. But, that's what
got me into Kitchen Nightmares, and then
I think I just became obsessed and
watched it.
So.
>> I have this thing where if I'm consuming
a lot of one show or a podcast, that
person's voice almost ends up being like
my conscience.
>> Totally.
>> have Gordon Ramsay in your head, and
you're going to make a bad decision,
he's like, "You donut!"
Sandwich. No, you know what's weird is
that
don't have that with people, but when I
start first started like really playing
video games addictively,
especially Fortnite, this sounds insane
that I'm admitting this publicly, too. I
would go to sleep at night, I'm not even
joking, I would think I would hear the
sound of chests in my walls. Like, that
has to be some form of psychosis. Yeah,
that's kind of what Edgar Allan Poe was
writing about.
>> Right. I literally would be falling
asleep and I'm like, there's a chest up
there. So,
>> [laughter]
>> I hope I hope someone out there can
relate to that.
>> We'll see if we can unlock some of the
mysteries of the human psyche in the
course of your last meal. Thank you so
much for being here. Have you thought
about your last meal before? I've had
the thought. I like to think I'm never
going to die. So. Interesting. Tell me
more.
>> we can get into that. Um, even when you
just said before, like, we all have to
eat and we all got to die. I'm like, do
I have to die? But, anyway, not to get
into that too quickly. Um. I'm sure we
will eventually.
>> will. Um, I feel like I have thought
about it and I've I've landed on Joe's
Stone Crab would be my true last meal.
Uh, so I'm guessing you don't think
about death a lot on account of you
don't think you're going to die.
>> This is going to give me an anxiety
attack. No, honestly, I I used to have
like really bad death anxiety. It was a
really serious, hard thing and then I
did a lot of therapy and a lot of
intense experiences around that and I
think I'm in a better place with it, for
sure. Yeah, was that from a really young
age, the death anxiety? Yeah, my whole
life. I think it also stems from just
feeling out of control, probably. I I
always try and look back at my own
childhood and try and retroactively
psychoanalyze what happened. And
sometimes I just think that kids are
hardwired differently. And I think some
might just be hardwired to be those
weird, depressive, old souls. For me,
when I was 6, 7 years old, after
learning about the concept of death, I
was like reading books all the time. I
was just like Were you fascinated by it
or were you Were you scared of it? Uh,
both. Um, I mean, that's kind of how
this show came about, it's cuz I've had
death anxiety my entire life and gone
through peaks and valleys. But, ever
since I was like a small child, I
remember thinking about the idea of
nonexistence and just going, this is a
horror beyond comprehension.
>> Absolutely. I was had a friend and I
remember telling her, she was like, "Oh,
what's wrong? I you know, you told me
you were struggling the other day." And
I was like, "I had a panic attack about
dying." And she literally looked at me
dead serious and was like, "I've never
thought about that." Isn't that crazy?
>> like, "What do you mean? You've never
thought about that?" That doesn't That
That honestly falls in the realm of like
fantasy for me, where I'm just like,
"That is so out of my
I can't conceive a life where I'm not
unfortunately consumed by these like
scary thoughts."
>> Yeah. But I I feel like I wouldn't want
it the other way.
>> It's almost like a paradox. Like, can
you appreciate it without knowing that
it's going to end? But
>> then I'm like, ignorance is bliss. And
sometimes I wish that. Sometimes you
just want to eat the stone crabs without
having to think about mortality. I
regret to inform you today is not one of
those days. You ready to eat? Yes.
>> Let's do it.
>> [bell]
>> Madison, for the first course of your
final meal on Earth, we have Courage
Bagels with schmear and then all the
seasonings. So, that includes the lemon
zest, the lemon pepper, the black pepper
on it. And then we have the In-N-Out
root beer with the signature In-N-Out
pebble ice. This is imported straight
from In-N-Out. And then we have the
animal style fries in [music] the bag.
I'm emotional. This is my dream. But
talk me through these emotions. What's
going through your head right now?
>> I just like [music] I I It's not often
that this is in like this mixture This
combo is a very impressive.
>> We strive to make dreams come true here.
>> This is You're doing that very much so.
I love How do you feel about like a
tomato
bagel? I grew up on this. This to me is
like my uh you know, Jewish grandmother,
Lily Blazowski.
>> Totally.
>> All right, if you love you, but I would
come home from school, she'd have a
Thomas's uh Thomas's bagel, like not a
good bagel, in the freezer. Cream cheese
also in the freezer. She went through
the Great Depression. And just once
everything got slightly thawed, spread
it on the least ripe tomato you've ever
had in your life.
>> And that was my after-school [music]
snack in like fourth grade.
This has been probably like my one of my
longest-running
combos. Are Are you not You're not
loxing it then? I have I definitely
dabble in other areas, but this is like
she has a special You'll a whitefish.
You'll dabble in I do feel like we
should start here. You please jump in. I
didn't mean to just grab it. No, no, I
just I was [music] just Are we going to
do animal This is This has to go. Okay.
Can't go wrong.
It's all the seasonings on top that
really get you there. You actually went
on Z100 almost a decade ago and defended
West Coast bagels. Did I? You did.
>> pre-COVID. I wonder what I was
defending.
>> No, you were OG. You were talking about
the Bagel Broker. Oh my god, I'm
Beverly. I used to love the Bagel
Broker. Wait, that Wow, you just brought
back a memory I totally had forgotten
about. Are there any New York foods that
you think LA can't do? I love certain
bagel spots in LA. Mhm.
It's better in New York. It's like it's
a law of averages. There are good ones
out here, but when I walk into like you
said any corner store, I'm already
ruining my napkin. Sorry.
When I walk into any corner store in New
York, there's no bad bagel. There's
really no such thing. Same with like a
piece of pizza. Mhm. LA has some good
spots. It's just not the exact same. So,
probably bagels and pizza, not to be
basic, but that is something that I
I will defend New York there with.
>> I respect it. Did you have to train your
Long Island accent out of you? My first
manager kind of was like, "You don't You
can't have like a super strong accent."
And I had a strong Long Island accent.
And so he was like, "We just have to
sort of train it a little bit to go away
if you're going to act or whatever,
which I guess is somewhat helpful if
you're going to be in the entertainment
industry." But now I look back and I'm
so regretful of it. But if I spend
enough time in New York or I just talk
to my dad, it comes out quickly.
>> I'm curious I'm curious if it'll come
out at all if you read this sentence.
I'm curious to see how you read it.
>> can read it. Like I I feel like This is
also the thing is like I whenever I
speak to my friends in Long Island,
they're like, "Oh, yeah, have you been
to like Paris?" And then here they're
like, "Paris?" Like little words where
I'm like, "Mhm, that's not how I used to
say it." But now I say it like a
Californian. I hate that for you. Mary
got married and had a merry wedding is
how I would say it now.
>> Wait, but you still only have a
two-point merger. What does that mean?
Okay, God, where is I'm so sorry. I'm so
nerdy. You're smarter than me. People
would say like marry like in Long
Island, right? Mary got married. Like
the A's are like ah. They would say I
think Mary. So this is called the Mary
Mary Mary merger. Mary got married and
had a merry [music]
wedding.
>> Exactly. So that's that's the
three-point split. Mary got married and
had a merry wedding. But the way that
you even said it in your new Californian
affectation was Mary got married and had
a you still said Mary. So you have still
retained one of the points of the Mary
Mary Mary merger. I miss my Long Island
accent, but whenever I go home I speak
to my like I'll FaceTime my friends in
LA and they're like, oh, okay. You're
you just talked to your dad for an hour
cuz it really comes out aggressively.
>> That's so funny. I will say though the
the In-N-Out. Now this is the most
Californian thing you can possibly do.
>> So you grew up here. I did not grow up
with In-N-Out. Most people who didn't
grow up with In-N-Out end up not loving
In-N-Out. So [music] that was my thing.
I did not I was not an In-N-Out person.
The first time I tried it I was like,
what? This is not that good.
>> Yeah. Did not know what to order. And to
be honest with you, until the last 2
years I didn't know what to order. And
I've been in LA for
a long long time. And So this is a very
new thing for you. This is within the
last couple years. So the last like
[music] 2 years or so I was pescetarian
and so I was getting just the grilled
cheese. Yeah, yeah. But it's basically
the same thing just with no meat and it
was really good. It helped me over for
not eating meat, but I love In-N-Out
now. Now I'm obsessed with it. I I love
that for you. We're like
>> I came around.
>> I want you to keep your Long Island
accent, but I also want you to love and
enjoy In-N-Out. There's not much that
compares.
>> [music]
>> You hold an interesting distinction that
you're one of the few guests to ever be
on an episode of Will It on Good
Mythical Morning, little show, don't
know if you've heard of it.
Now that we're a couple years removed
from Will It Cannoli, what was your
experience like on Will It and did it
live up to the hype?
>> I've been watching like the Mythical
Morning for years and so I was just so
excited to do it. And so yes, it lived
up to the hype because it was just
incredible being on the the meeting
Rhett and Link, like
everything. It was just so cool for me
to be there. I don't know why I expected
like whatever they were going to feed me
cuz I knew there was going to be
something that was going to be horrible.
Like the fish cannoli.
>> Yep. I don't know why I was expecting it
to not be so bad. It was horrible. It
was disgusting. So, I think that that
was funny, but the experience was great.
That's one of the reasons that we uh
hardly ever have guests on Will It is
that we don't want to feed them
something disgusting. That's why we
don't have guests on Will It.
>> want to do a Will It episode because
that was those were my favorite show.
When we got that email from you and your
team, we were like like ripples went
through the office. We're like That's so
funny.
>> Guys, she's down to do Will It.
>> cream sandwich was like my favorite
episode for a long time.
>> Is there one of those ice cream
sandwiches that you wish you could have
tried? The crayon one. Randomly. Like
that's that's the one that I remember
stuck with me. What?
What?
>> [laughter]
>> Wait, my face just actually like I just
got full body Madison, what we have here
>> How did you know that? How did you know
I was going to say that?
>> I am the angel of death. I know all.
What we have here are several non-toxic
crayons.
>> Tears in my eyes. All right, kids.
Gather around. It's the dreamy you've
always wanted. Ice cream sandwich
crayons. And um so this is here in case
you want to take it home with you.
>> really happy right now. I actually
really do. Is it disgusting? Have you
tried it?
>> it.
I think we have to.
>> We have to. Just a small bite.
>> It's your last meal. Just a small bite.
Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. I
requested this. Okay.
Think it and sink it.
>> sink it.
>> [snorts]
>> That's
Ow.
Oh god. You got strong teeth, Dave. Good
job.
Holy Sorry. Hey, it's about
What were you expecting?
>> [snorts]
>> I don't know what to do.
You know what?
>> know what to do. Does the root beer help
or hurt? The ice cream overpowered the
crayon. Yeah, it um Do I have crayon all
over me?
>> No, do I? I feel like I got all up
in there.
I feel like it's
everywhere.
Yeah, that's um Thank you for No, thank
you.
>> letting me have that experience.
>> on for being on this ride. We didn't
make anything else from Willett's. We
thought about doing the beef vile
cheesecake and we're like, let's not
ruin her entire life.
>> That was like a childhood dream that
just came true. Did it live up to the
excitement? Do you think that healed a
part of childhood Madison? Oh, no.
There's a lot more that we need we need
to do.
>> [laughter]
>> we'll get to that later.
Yeah. So, when you uploaded your first
YouTube video, the Bruno Mars mashup
cover.
>> I'm going to do like a mashup melody
sort of thing. That's like my If you
watch that, I'm so happy.
>> Tomei from My Cousin Vinny. It's
incredible. Hey, so I'm Madison Beer and
I'm going to be doing like a mashup
melody sort of thing.
>> That was about 6 weeks after the first
ever episode of Good Mythical Morning.
>> [music]
>> What?
>> know if you know that. Yeah. But Rhett
and Link had been posting prior to that.
>> They'd been posting prior to that and
they had Good Morning Chia Lincoln, but
the first ever episode of Good Mythical
Morning was I think January 9th, 2012
[music]
and you uploaded
>> February 20-something.
>> Yeah. Woah.
>> When you like logged on to YouTube at
the time that you uploaded that, what
did your homepage look like?
>> Have you ever heard of SuperMac18? Yeah,
okay. I'm thinking
>> I'm a fake fan.
>> SuperMac18. No, no, no. It was like this
is These are random niches. SuperMac18.
Oh, I loved The Naked Brothers Band.
Okay.
So, I was always watching like their
stuff on YouTube. A lot of stop motion
videos, which is how I found Rhett and
Link because they had the like the
T-shirt stop motion video with all like
I think it was like a thousand T-shirts
or something.
>> Yeah. I don't know. That's a long time
ago. Well, it's a long time ago and it's
crazy to think that you have been
uploading to YouTube about as long as
the 50-year-old men that owns this
entire
>> Scared, but it is also crazy thinking
about, you know, the the origin story
that's been told about you for forever
is that, you know, Justin Bieber found
your video and tweeted it and then you
signed to
>> [music]
>> the record label he did. I Googled how
old Justin Bieber was when that happened
thinking he was like a mid-20s man.
Adult.
>> 16. was like 16. He was 16 and
considered a king a second generation
kingmaker in the pop world. That's like
looking back on how old the Egyptian
pharaohs were and being like, "Oh, that
was a sick that was a 15-year-old boy
that was embalmed after running a
nation." But it's like literally insane
to think about the ages of not only you
but also the other people in this story.
I think that that's something that is
[music] trippy for me
as I get older like we weren't getting
these like glimpses into their intimate
lives the way we do now. Like it was
still kind of removed in a sense and so
yeah, I remember just thinking like
him and so many other people that I
looked up to weren't human. It's a weird
it's a weird thing when you get older
and you realize like yeah, I was 12 but
you were also a teenager. Literally a
teenager figuring out life for the first
time under so much public scrutiny
dealing with so many things and it's
yeah, it's kind of a bit sad to look
back at. It sure is.
It's weird when you think about the term
dehumanization, right? You think about
people
throughout history who have, you know,
dehumanized people that they consider
like less than. There's this weird thing
the opposite way where if you consider
somebody more than to such a degree
you're like taking away their ability to
be human and it's crazy that you had
that experience in real life of like
meeting Justin being like, "Oh, you're
not human." Yeah, it's it's weird. I
think that like fame in general is a
weird concept and something that I'm not
sure like we are meant to experience. I
don't think that like your brain can
comprehend,
>> [music]
>> you know, how many people perceive you,
have opinions of you, blah blah blah.
It's a really tricky thing.
>> It's funny for me because I am
I don't know. I can never empathize with
like anything that you've actually gone
through or experience currently but it's
weird for me as somebody who never I
thought I was going to be a writer my
whole life somebody telling other
people's stories and then now I feel
like I'm almost experiencing
some form of fame but from the outside
looking in. Like almost like a doctor
watching his own surgery in a way me to
like process it. To me something that
happens is when you try and think of the
breadth of the amount of people
4 million subscribers, that's like uh
you know, the
10 times the population of Iceland,
right?
>> That's crazy, but I almost just like
shut down and dissociate immediately.
[music] Yeah. Where I'm like, "Oh, that
can't be real, certainly."
>> It's almost like dehumanizing as well.
It's like it's just a number on a
screen. Yeah. Which is the same thing
that we do in this in the world with,
you know, celebrities, people. It's like
it's weird how we are able to kind of
disconnect, but I mean I do the same
thing. I think if I thought about my
following, it would send me into a bad
place and freak me out a bit. Just
because I think I get I I kind of have a
hard time
>> [music]
>> I guess accepting how much uh
false
how many false narratives go around. And
so much of what you wrote about in your
memoir is um
this kind of paradox of
selling the image of fame, not even
deliberately, right? It's not like
you're out there, you know, selling Kemp
>> tummy teas. Like, "Come to my fame
camp." But just by simply existing and
you know,
people consuming your content and your
music, you're sort of endorsing this
lifestyle. And so it was something that
was really important for you to be like,
"Hey, this isn't what you [music] think
it is." Is that like a more conscious
movement that you think we've seen
recently? I think it's important to me
because
I grew up
really obsessed with the idea of it. And
I think I [clears throat] was kind of a
victim of being fooled by the the whole
situation where it was like, "Oh my god,
this is this awesome thing and you're
going to come to LA and like we're going
to get you a Nickelodeon show." And I
the the term like, "You're we want to
make you the female Justin Bieber." was
said to me very very often from 12 to
probably 16. I I can Okay, there's a lot
of like gross adults in the industry,
right? Who would just say something like
that. But even if
you were one of them, I would simply
have not said those words to you
exactly. Yeah. Right?
>> It's definitely there.
>> bar to set. They were just saying that?
Oh, yeah. Like it was just this is this
is where I'm going is I want to be the
female. Which what does that even mean?
Like his level of success? Like I don't
know what that even really means but
that was what was said to me so often.
Yeah, exactly.
Um it's all feels very far in the past
[music] now.
>> Yeah. A question I ask myself a lot is
like what is the peak of human
happiness, right? And I used to think
that um it at least required some amount
of like monetary success. And money is
still important. It can solve certain
problems in your life.
But if you think about like who the
happiest person on Earth is right now, I
can guarantee you it's no one close to
being the most successful.
>> 100% agree with you, for sure. I would
argue like what you said. I I would say
most people who are happy it kind of
like doesn't really matter what your job
is or what your income is like. I think
it really does come from within you. Um
but I also probably
sound like an eye roll saying that
because I don't have to deal with this.
It's It's hard. It's a double-edged
sword cuz I do understand like the
perspective of when people in
this position talk about it, it's kind
of like, "Okay, you don't know what it's
like." You know, which I totally
understand and I always think that
that's important to acknowledge but
>> Surely it's one of the many paradoxes
that like we constantly live in and
that's life. [music] It's you simply
exist trapped between a boulder and a
steel wall. For sure. Sometimes there's
animal fries.
>> [music]
>> I like when there's animal fries.
>> [bell]
>> Madison, for the second course of your
final meal,
this is it. It's the end-all be-all.
This is the jumbo order of Joe's Stone
Crab along with their hashed brown
potatoes. Not hash browns or hash brown
potatoes, hashed brown potatoes. Have
you ever had a stone crab? I've never
had a stone crab. They're beautiful.
>> excited. So I don't want to misspeak
here but I also think they grow back.
They do.
>> That's what I've heard.
>> That's crazy. It It takes about a a year
and a half. They detach the claws and
throw the crabs back in the water. I'm
not going to say the crabs are happy
about it.
>> Right, I'm not sure they're loving it
but hey, at least they're alive still.
Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know if they're
stuck in sort of a never-ending form of
torment of uh uh no well
>> Don't say that. Don't ruin them last
meals. I think this is you know, go
ahead eat it. [laughter] Okay, you have
to eat it with me. I'm going to show you
how you how you do it. So Please.
>> Grab Grab one. So this is what I do. I
take this off which I believe is their
knuckle. Okay, wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.
>> Oh, yours didn't have it. Okay. Okay, so
yours already fell off. We can put that
there. Obviously you want to remove as
much of the shell as possible. These are
not normal crab shells that I'm [music]
used to. These are thick like stone.
Super different. So
>> Oh, stone crab. Boom.
>> God damn it. I'm
>> So see how it kind of like came off the
>> Oh, you're fully Oh, you kept the
possible then I'm shoving it back in.
>> No, it's fine. You can do whatever you
want. So I would recommend a little lime
squeeze.
>> Okay.
And this is like a Miami original. This
sort of only exists in Miami.
>> I think there's one in Vegas now. So my
grandma you got to you got to dunk it.
>> My grandma um has been going here
forever and she basically lives in
Miami. So this is something that we it's
kind of a tradition. I never go to Miami
and not have Joe's. Wow. Hey, cheers.
>> Cheers for stone crab.
So they didn't know that stone crabs
were edible for the longest time. Mhm.
And it wasn't until
an ichthyologist, a person who studies
crabs, was literally eating at Joe
Weiss's lunch counter in Miami and was
like, "Hey, all those weird little
creatures clip-clopping around there.
You ever just think about eating those
here?" And he was like, "Dude, no." And
he says, "You can't eat them." And he
was like, "Oh, yeah, you can. I'll show
you." And this crab
the crab academic just goes and grabs
stone crabs out, boils them up, and
goes, "By the way, the claws the claws
grow back." So it's just one crab nerd
figured out and now Joe's Stone Crab is
the highest grossing restaurant in all
of America. They did like $45 million in
sales last year.
>> So I do have to say, it's really
expensive. Like this Mhm. This is I
don't know how much it is, but I would
say this might be like $200, $300 just
for this, right? Am I right?
>> Yeah. It's such an experience and it
feels like you're not just paying for
the food. It feels like you're really
paying for this like [music] atmosphere
and there's so many memories for like me
and my family there. So, I've got no
problem. I'm always like
I'll go there. And then the potatoes,
don't even get me started.
>> Oh, jumping on the potatoes.
>> You need to try the potatoes. We didn't
get the creamed spinach. We thought
about it. Are you a creamed spinach or
coleslaw gal? I love creamed spinach. I
like cream anything, like creamed corn.
Mhm. Creamed spinach. These are like
very East Coast potatoes. Honestly, this
is very special for me. It's rare that I
get to have a new experience on the show
and somebody else walks me through new
food experience.
>> I'm so honored. And this is awesome.
This is kind of what life is about to
me.
>> I'm sad my brother is not here because
he would have loved to have one. Maybe
I'll bring I'll bring one home for him.
Your dad once fly Joe's Stone Crab to
you when you had a show in Orlando.
>> Well, I think he drove it up, I want to
say, or down. I don't know. I'm really
bad with geography, but I think that
there's not much down from Miami. He
brought them up to Orlando. When you
used to like go perform when you were a
small child just in your living room,
dad's having get-togethers. Yeah. And
you used to jokingly tell people that my
daughter's going to sing in Madison
Square Garden one day. And then now
you're actually doing it on your
upcoming tour. How much does that moment
mean to you in thinking back to your dad
saying that? My apartment with the was
Madison Square Garden.
So, it's something that I think is
[music] surreal and you know, I don't
know. I think it's like a
complex thing for me where I feel like
[music] I've worked for a really long
time at this and I feel more ready than
ever to do it. So, I'm super excited
that it's happening now versus a couple
years ago when I,
>> [music]
>> you know, was like, I really wish I
could sell it out and I couldn't. So,
Yeah. I'm happy that it's happening now,
but I don't know. I try not to it's it's
it's weird happening now as well though
cuz I'm I'm really in a place where
[music] I'm just trying not to like
tether my happiness or self-worth to my
like
>> Yeah. achievements. I've been let down a
lot. Like I've had a lot of experiences
through doing all of this where I'm
like, oh, I thought that song was going
to debut with more streams and it
didn't. What does that mean? Does it
mean that now the song is bad? Does it
mean that I'm not good enough? Like it's
sort of weird that it's happening now
where it's like I don't want to say that
it's [music] the time I've cared the
least, but it is the time where I'm the
least
impressed by like these things, which
maybe is why it's happening is because
it feels like it's all happening
naturally. Like even my album that came
out was like my first ever top [music]
10 debut. And everyone was like, "How
does it feel?" I'm like,
I'd say fine. I don't know. Like I I
wouldn't have
And again, it's like I don't want to
come across ungrateful or not excited,
but it's just something that when you've
been doing this for so long, you have to
really think about what is important
because I haven't had a top 10 debut.
haven't sold out Madison Square Garden,
and I feel really proud of what I've
done. So, it's important to like you can
the goal posts are there, and it's still
something that it's cool I'm so excited.
I'm going to By the way, sob my eyes
out. I'm sure of it. But like, I don't
know whether that happened or not, I
still would love this album. I still
would be really thankful for all the
fans that, you know, came to Radio City
and and whatnot. So, just trying to, I
guess, not be as obsessed with like
[music]
I need this to happen or I'm a failure.
The tough thing about stadiums is that
there's almost always a bigger one.
Eventually, you're going to reach I
think there's a stadium in India that's
got like 160,000 seats in in in Gujarat.
I think they did the Cricket World Cup
there. So, you can do that. But but you
see the like paradox here, which is, you
know, Madison Square Garden obviously so
important to you, 13 years old, but it's
still a goal post that can be moved. I
haven't achieved what a lot of my peers
have achieved, and I'm totally happy.
Yeah. I'm very content. I'm eating Joe's
Stone Crab and In-N-Out right now. I
want to be clear, this does rule. This
is one of the really cool parts of like,
you know, mild B-list YouTube fame. I'm
having a great time. This is awesome.
>> This is the best. Uh as I've gotten
older, I've just realized that all the
cheesy that all the people said to
me when I was younger is just They were
right.
But like, again, the paradox, how can
you actually communicate that to [music]
somebody who is younger than you and
hasn't experienced that?
>> to experience it. You have to like Like
I'm so thankful that I didn't get what I
thought I wanted at so many points in my
life, you know?
>> Yeah. And the more I um
you think about all the numbers and the
fame and even these experiences, which
are very very cool, but you know, it's
interesting with the cameras being on,
the observer effect kind of [music]
takes hold. I don't know about you, I
can never be like fully fully present in
a weird way when something's being
recorded.
>> For sure.
>> [music]
>> Um that said, there are experiences that
I've had that I'm like, this will never
leave me. Like experiences that I've had
because of my job. I know that you once
gave a talk at a school in Los Angeles
and there was a girl that pulled you
aside and started telling you about
depression that she was going through.
And you said you just grabbed her hands
and you just had this personal moment
just kind of crying to each other.
Totally. How much do [music] those
moments stick in your head versus
selling things out or checking Spotify
stream numbers? Infinitely more. And
those moments are really what like
honestly to circle it all back back to
like the death anxiety and the
overwhelming
you know
just being a person, all of it. Like it
I think that those are the moments where
I'm like, there
has to be more. And there are just like
there there are just those few times
that I don't know how to express it cuz
it's something that it's just it it does
feel like supernatural, honestly, where
you have those moments where you're
like, this is
I feel
something that I don't even know how to
describe, whether it's like
[clears throat] pure joy or you're just
feeling so present with someone or like
that moment specifically. I didn't know
this girl, she we don't know each other
and we literally were just two
strangers. Like I was just holding her
hands and she was sobbing and then I
just started crying because I was also
going through a really hard time and I
remember just we were literally just
looking in each other's eyes and it felt
like cosmic. I don't know how to explain
it and like there was something so
special about like me meeting her there
and her feeling seen and then me feeling
seen and there was just so many layers
to it and then I've had moments where
I'd be I'll be at a concert and you
know, the concerts are amazing. Nothing
is is more fulfilling to me in my life
than like performing for people, meeting
them and having these experiences. It's
it's really such a special experience
and it's something I do feel like I was
like put on this earth to do.
Regardless of like music stuff, like
just connecting with people like that it
it means so much to me and there was one
night that I'll never forget. It was my
Las Vegas show on my last tour. There
was a girl in the front the front row to
my left, and she was sobbing her eyes
out to my song Dangerous, which is like
a ballad, and
>> [music]
>> we just locked eyes, and I sang the
entire song just to her, and we had this
like crazy Man. moment. I just don't
know how to describe it, and it just was
this like super intimate, super special
>> [music]
>> moment that like moves me in this way
that I can't describe. It's just
something It's literally like cosmic and
spiritual is like how I would describe
it. It just feels
magical, and I'm like
yeah, I don't know. Some past life
something. Like I don't It just feels
like this weird thing that Those are my
favorite moments though ever. And
everything else really the noise of
everything else goes away [music]
completely when I think about those
times, and I'm like the hate that does
get to me, but like that all gets so
washed away when I have those
experiences with someone that I'm like
we [music] are meeting each other in
this vulnerable place as two strangers
essentially,
it's very cool.
>> [bell]
>> Madison, for the third course of your
final meal, we have
Fred's pasta, no chicken, extra parm,
the lemonade slushy
from Fred Segal, and then we have the
spicy tuna crispy rice from Little
Izakaya, and then we have the tamago
yaki onigiri from Gung Ho Bob. This is
I feel like this is a specific time and
place in Los Angeles. Oh my Where were
you when you were
>> LA things. You're right. Wow, I didn't
even realize that.
>> And these are very specifically LA
things. This is an LA thing that I'm
taking this all in. I'm like this vision
is wow. This kind of doesn't exist
anymore, but kind of does. They moved.
So, the original Fred Segal, which is
actually called Mauro's Mauro's Cafe,
Yeah. they moved. So, they're not at
their OG location anymore, but the pasta
is still the same, and it's the best.
[music]
>> had it. Is it Should we dig in? I would
definitely recommend you
mixing the cheese up pretty good.
>> so Yeah, so it usually comes with
chicken, but this is to me arguably like
one of the best I I love I love this
pasta. This is like my comfort meal. And
they have an amazing pesto pasta as
well. So if you like pesto, I recommend
Mauro's Cafe. I'm a big pea You give me
peas in a creamy tomato sauce.
Mhm.
So we did get this straight from the
restaurant. This is their penne cooked
with creamy tomato sauce, they call it
pink sauce, with the peas and the
parmesan in there. When I was at least
like 18, [music] you'd go there and
you'd see I would see everyone I have
ever met in my life. That was like kind
of the It was like our stomping ground.
Interesting. Are you still in contact
with a lot of those people? Like are
these lifelong friendships or were these
like LA weird media specific point in
time friendships? A lot of them were
probably
point in time friendships and like
things that have since fizzled out a
bit. I'm pretty like introverted now, I
think. I Mhm. I spend a lot of time at
home. I don't want to say I don't make
efforts like but I just don't really go
to a lot of things. So I think that some
of those have fizzled out for that
reason where I'm just sometimes like
Yeah, I haven't made it to like anything
in a long time. I just choose to stay
home a lot and so that's probably part
of my issue, but it's not really I don't
really deem it as an issue. So many
people are like, "Hey, it's bad to
isolate yourself and this isn't
self-care. This is you giving in to
social anxiety. You should probably talk
to other people including your best
friends whose texts you haven't
responded to in 3 weeks."
>> Totally.
>> Cuz they're saying that to me these
days. I think that like I'm in between
with how I feel about that. Like I think
it's important to listen to what you
need and there are definitely nights
where I'm like, "I need to be alone." or
"I need to not hang out with people."
but then those nights turn into weeks
and those weeks turn into months and I'm
suddenly like, "Okay, I haven't seen
anybody but my boyfriend in 6 months."
So it's important I think to like get
yourself out there. Like recently one of
my best friends was like, "I'm having a
little birthday thing at you know, Color
Me Mine." like the little pottery
painting place. Um
and you know, my gut reaction is like
I'm not going to go. To me it's easier
to stay home. But this situation I was
like, "No, I'm going to go. This is one
of my best friends. It's her birthday.
Like, I'm going to go." And so there's I
think I'm good about pushing myself when
necessary, but I'm also like
>> I will say also the fact that you're
talking about your best friend's
birthday at a fun Color Me Mine thing.
>> As like something I have to push myself
>> As if it's like boot camp. Yeah, yeah. I
know.
>> That sounds like a tough place to be at.
>> No, it was literally so fun and I'm glad
that I went, but like there's things
that I feel like I'm like, "Okay, you
cannot." And by the way, like she texted
me and was like, "I would not have been
surprised if you didn't show up." And I
That breaks my heart. I hate that I have
that reputation where I'm like not a
reliable person, maybe. Mhm. And I hate
flakiness. Like, I'm I'm not someone who
will make a plan with you and then bail,
but I'm like, "Can the plan be us going
in my hot tub at my house?" I I'm a big
fan. Dig in, dig in.
>> one of these. Uh I'm a big fan of
dystopian literature and you know all
these fears about government creating a
police state, which are real. We've also
just created our own social police state
and it really scares the hell out of me.
Put your phone away at the gym,
Sorry.
Speak on it.
>> Uh little as I got in the valley. Isn't
it so good?
>> This is like real I would say this is
like valley pilled stuff.
>> Mhm. This is at at some point did you
move out to the valley from central Los
Angeles? Yes, I started like kind of
near the Grove area and then my house
was in Encino. So, I got to be familiar
with the valley a bit and I like it. I
like it a lot and then now I live more
back
in LA LA, but I don't know. I think
there's a lot of really awesome pockets.
>> The interesting thing though like where
you're from if somebody was like, "Hey,
imagine people just said I'm moving to
Long Island. We're going to hang out all
the time." You're like, "Well, Long
Island's big."
>> Yeah. You're like, "No, it's cool. I'm
in I'm in Great Neck. We're just going
to hang out all the time." You're like,
"Well, But but that's even 15 minutes
away. It's a fair point.
>> Even if the mileage
like not in Long Island. I swear there's
like no I've never seen no On the
highway, yes.
>> got the LIRR. But only in only in rush
hour.
>> Do they call it the LIRR? What's the
LIRR?
>> God damn it. What in the hell is it?
>> You take the LIRR to the city. The Long
Island Rail Road? No one calls it the
LIRR. I'm like
>> Never heard Well, maybe they do. I
don't. I've never
said the LIRR.
That's what we've learned today. Well,
yeah, it's kind of like a new word. I'm
going to start Yeah, it's like a super
cool like like youth slang that they
they kids are a little I don't I know.
I've been gone for a while now, so
>> me and uh You stay up, right?
>> the Great Neck Equinox all the high
schoolers that train there we're
Right.
>> we're chill. What's big? Okay. Okay.
Okay. Okay. So, is this from Gum to Bob?
>> So, this is from Gum to Bob. We actually
called them and asked them to make it.
They have taken it off their menu, but
Why did they take You should have asked
why they took it off the menu or We we
tend not to in They're getting the
people that we called and asked favors
favors from. But next time, now we can
call them back. Now they've already made
it. I'm going to call them. Now that I
know they have a number that that works,
I'm going to call. Give me their phone
number.
>> Hey, it's me, Mads.
>> Hey, so
why did you Maybe they'll make it though
if I go in and like request it.
>> they will. Yeah, yeah.
>> Okay.
This is like a crazy combo.
>> This is so good. It's really good. I
love this so much. Do you think for
forgive me for this distinction, you're
like a little bit of like a sicko?
Total. Thank you. How do you see it?
>> You like used to eat just the the
peelings of potatoes when you were a
child? As somebody who has said that if
they were to perform or they'd be a
psychologist, how do you psychoanalyze
that about yourself? Maybe it's a
control [music] thing. Maybe I feel like
I'm doing something, you know, with
these foods. I feel like I'm
>> [music]
>> in control, which that's so weird. But I
I do feel like most of my issues do stem
from my control things and feeling like
whenever my OCD like spikes the worst,
it's when I feel
>> Mhm. out of control. And it could be for
like anything, honestly. [music] It's
not too specific. Is it a control thing?
Or could it be like
a work thing? I have a thing where I
feel like I need to work for everything
that I've had. Oh. And it manifests in
weird ways. Like I'm I'm a total cat
person over dogs and I never really knew
why until somebody asked me and I was
like, well, a dog gives unconditional
love. You have to earn a cat's love.
>> You have to earn a cat's love. And I
think I'm undeserving of Oh, no.
>> Right. Oh, yeah.
>> Right. You get to like a really bad
place really quickly. Wow, that's
interesting. I'm actually like a new cat
person. I My whole life I was solely a
dog person.
My brother has a cat that
we've never gotten along.
>> Mhm.
She just does not like girls, I don't
think, and like has always just swatted
at me, and like we've never had a
relationship. He We've never had a
relationship, so I just never was into
cats, and then I rescued my cat off the
side of the road 2 years ago now, and
my goodness, the best thing that's
probably ever happened to me in my
entire life is getting this cat. She's
like everything to me. I have nightmares
about her because I'm like fearful
something bad is going to happen to her,
that's how much I love her.
>> Talking about the idea of role
confusion. Yeah, it's weird, and I think
for me
I'm always grappling with like this
tug-of-war of who
do I want is there only one thing that I
can be? Am I multifaceted? How can I
showcase all of these different avenues?
Like
will I ever be seen for who I am? Is it
even worth trying anymore? Like I go
through this crazy back and forth with
all of it so often, and then sometimes I
just go well, forget it. I'm just going
to release my music and not really have
a presence on social media at all, and
I'm just going to kind of disappear at
some point.
Hopefully, and
so it's weird. I Those are like two very
like those are
contrasts that are
intense, [music] and that was something
that like also with therapy I I kind of
realized where a lot of my anxiety and I
I talked about this in the book as well,
where like a lot of my anxiety and
depression I think was coming from this
constant tug-of-war in my head of like I
value privacy and security and
all these things that like is the
complete opposite of what you get when
you put your life out there the way that
I have, and so that's something that
still to this day I completely struggle
with all the time. Um was talking to
Jennette McCurdy on the show, and she
said something that really stuck with
me. She, of course, had to deal with a
lot of different identity issues, but
she said prioritize values over
identity. And that's the thing that I've
been thinking about a lot, is like what
are my personal values versus who am I?
What are your personal values that you
live by? Well, that was the thing that
my therapist had me write out where she
was like, what are she was like, let's
separate you and basically slice you
down the middle and there's this Madison
Beer like idea of like who you think you
are in the media and then there's
Madison like just you as a person forget
everything else. What are their values
basically and I kind of listed
everything that was on you know, the
Madison Beer list and then everything
that was on the Madison list and they
were so contradictory. It was really
eye-opening and it made me be like, oh
yeah, no wonder I'm miserable because I
feel like I'm at war with myself all of
the time and I would say like when I
when I really think about what my values
are is is connection with people like
that is to me such an important thing
and the thing that makes me feel the
most fulfilled and like that's how I
feel like I get so much of my joy in
life is connecting with people talking
to people everything stems from that
where it's like hearing you that you got
through it and there was a light at the
end of the tunnel and you maybe you're
not even at the light yet but like you
see it and then you're you're trucking
towards it has made me feel a lot better
in those moments. So I think that it's
important to talk about and
yeah, try to be as honest as you can
when you can but it can be scary. I just
want to like genuinely thank you for
your vulnerability not just in having if
this is just a private conversation
that's something that I'm like so
weirdly comfortable with and that's kind
of how this show came about is because
I'm the person that like if my friend
was like oh, my girlfriend got mad at me
playing Xbox 5 minutes later we'd be
like, oh, I am scared of dying alone.
That's why that hit so hard. I've just
I'll just take conversations there but
[laughter]
>> Same, I'm so glad that you are the same
way. Oh my god, I feel so stupid. It
just spirals all the way down to death.
>> Yeah. But I know that having the
conversation putting it out in front of
other people puts you uniquely in a very
vulnerable position [music] that you
have been many times before so like
thank you for having that trust.
>> Thanks for making me feel comfortable
enough to do it cuz I wouldn't I
wouldn't be able to talk about all of
this if
if you weren't so great.
>> Stop it. Stop it. We still have one more
course. That's very very
>> [bell]
>> Madison Beer is final course of your
final meal,
we have the Holy Cow Hot Fudge Sundae
from Peter Luger,
and then an Oreo McFlurry with
McDonald's french fries, hot and fresh.
We have hot fudge on the side in case
you want it for your Oreo McFlurry.
>> Oh my god.
>> That's something you do sometimes.
>> [music]
>> Um and extra Schlag
on the whole glass there.
>> cream. Yeah, yeah.
>> What the What makes it different than
whipped [music] cream? Okay, so this
causes a lot of arguments in my
household, my wife being from This is
from the Great Neck, Long Island.
>> This is Peter Luger's, not the the
original Brooklyn one.
>> Brooklyn, no, I've never been to that
one. No, neither is anybody who is from
Long Island. Um but this is very, very I
would call it over whipped cream. So
basically, if you whip cream for long
enough, it turns into butter.
And so this is kind of halfway between
whipped cream and butter. Wow.
>> And this dish so is permanently warped
Julia's view on what whipped cream
should be. I'll make a beautiful light
>> this is better or is it not?
>> makes it, it's just like this, and I
have recreated this sundae for her mom's
birthday, for her brother's birthday.
>> with this before I even came. Wow.
>> eaten this inside the Great Neck, Long
Island restaurant. I've been there.
>> Wow. And then you got a very similar, if
not the same, glass, which I'm impressed
by.
>> I think it's identical to the glass. Let
me know how the Schlag is.
Incredible. Cuz when I was instructing
our cooks, many of which have worked in
Michelin starred restaurants and gone to
culinary school, I said over whip the
out of this whipped cream, that's
how it is at the restaurant. I think
that was done. This is their Schlag.
>> that was done professionally. It's damn
near butter. Okay, so I'm a big like
salty plus sweet person. This is a
little more
>> McDonald's fries.
Like
Sometimes I'm just like
I need a McDonald's french fry. How
often do you think about the quote,
"This is your life and it's ending one
minute at a time"? Well,
very often. I I
That's the Fight Club quote, isn't it?
Yeah, I've I've I actually recently was
[music] like playing a game with my
friend where we were just saying random
quotes from like every movie ever. There
was no and we were just seeing how
quickly we could get them. But yeah, I
love that quote and I put it in a song,
too, because I just think that Well,
first of all, I just love that movie
very, very much. But then also
And you wrote a whole song about a
>> I did.
>> protagonist named Tyler Durden.
>> I know. I did write a whole song about
it. That was like right after I had seen
the movie for the first time and so I
think I just became very obsessed with
it
um cuz it kind of does that to you. When
you see your first movie that has a
really good twist in it, you're like,
"Whoa, this is the best thing ever."
Especially at that age you would have
been what, like 18?
>> Yeah, I think I was like 17. Yeah, yeah.
When I first saw it.
>> great age to watch Fight Club.
>> Fight Club. I I absolutely loved it. And
then I And then I became I mean, I was
always really into
movies and film, but I think that really
kicked off my love for like specifically
psychological thrillers and something I
I I have been honestly on this search of
just movies with that like awesome
twist. I mean, the only other movie so
far that I've seen Well, The Prestige is
up there for me. Such a good movie.
>> Such a good movie. My top five off the
top of my head, probably not in not in
order because it changes all the time,
would probably be Shutter Island, The
Prestige, Fight Club, Shawshank
Redemption, and
probably The Truman Show if I had to
throw another one in there or like
Interstellar.
>> I love Zootopia as well. I'm See, I'm a
girl with range. No, but I
Yeah, I love I love movies and stuff,
but yeah.
Fight Club I think
I Yeah, it resonated with me a lot
because I just was like, "That's so
cool." And I feel like I'm someone who I
do feel like I have two people living
within me sometimes in a way. Yeah.
Well, I mean, you that seems to be a big
>> [music]
>> motif throughout a lot of your music. In
your song off Lock It, Nothing at All,
you talk about this idea of not being
able to grapple with the fantasy versus
the reality
of a situation. You know what I mean?
Which is something that you've kind of
talked about, you know, going on stage
and almost kind of dissociating in in
these situations. But is that something
that you think you can ever come to
terms with? Yeah, Nothing at All was a
song that I wrote because I felt like
also purposefully like I think too
deeply about it, but I wanted it to come
after Make You Mine cuz Make You Mine is
like you know the biggest song off of
that album so I thought it was almost
kind of funny to put it after that
because it was like here's my big song
that has a bunch of streams and then I'm
like and here's a song about how I am
afraid of everything basically and and
um yeah I mean I think that I it's no
it's it's something honestly that I
still struggle with where I try to
figure out you know like how can I is it
an acceptance thing is it something that
I'm like
and when I talk about it in the song of
like I'm afraid of getting better I'm
afraid it gets too good it's it's
basically just me being like am I
working towards something that then one
day I will be look back on and be like
that was the best part of my life or
like I want I hopefully want to be able
to keep getting better and I think
there's this thing that happens
especially like in music I've spoken to
a lot of my friends who are artists who
have had like number one songs where it
can almost be not the best thing because
then you're like well if I don't have
another number one it's only down Yeah.
whereas for me I'm like I've never had a
number one so I get to just release
music and whatever happens happens and I
almost like that better and maybe that's
just my way of coping with it all but
like that is truly how I feel at this
point where I'm like I think that I as
someone who is
uh I don't want to say like
self-doubting but I am someone that is
really hard on myself and I'm someone
who's I guess like depressive could be
the word I I I I don't really know how
to describe it but I think if I were to
have like this huge giant moment all of
a sudden and have like these number ones
and then
it [music] go down I think I'd be so
it'd be hard to come back from that for
me mentally I don't know but maybe I'm
also speaking out of turn and who knows
what would happen if it really did but I
think you have a pretty good grasp on
yourself at this point.
>> know though I question it still I really
don't know.
>> It also seems to be something that's
pretty universal I if I accomplish
something I just get sad immediately I
don't even
>> it's over you know it's hard to enjoy
the moments as well because you're like
I'm anticipating it being over almost in
this weird way like I'm doing I'm trying
to get really a lot better at that
though like especially on on last tour I
really made sure to like take a second
when I'm on some of these stages I'd
always dreamed of like Radio City or the
Greek or whatever. I'm just like look
around and take it in because this is a
moment you're here right now. And yes,
tomorrow morning you are going to wake
up and it'll just be a memory, but like
you're in this moment right now. So like
soak it in and that's something that I
think has been helpful because I get to
actually enjoy moments. Right? Sometimes
I feel like you I feel like we're always
looking forward of like what what can we
do better and what can we change? And
like oh yeah, that episode was good, but
like how can we improve it? Instead of
actually just like enjoying what we're
doing and
>> I got some really good advice from a
couple gurus in my life. Well, it was
just one of them, but it was a guy named
Link. I think Charles Lincoln Neil the
third was his name. I'm dead serious.
This is when we were going on tour and I
I'd never done anything really on a
stage. I was like initially kind of
nervous to do stuff in front of you
know, a couple thousand people.
>> Of course. And Link was like, "Hey, when
you get out on that stage for the first
time." He's like, "You're going to feel
the sound waves of people screaming."
Which is crazy. Watch out for that. And
he's like, "But
don't just rush into it. He's like,
"Take a beat. Let people cheer and stare
at as many people in the eyes as you can
and realize that they are all as much of
an individual as you are."
>> Yes. And every night I remember going
out there.
It was a whole thing. I was like greased
up. I ripped off my shirt. I don't know.
But anyways, I would just remember
standing there and
>> [music]
>> in every single city I can picture the
background of the theater in Columbus,
Ohio versus you know, the theater in in
Raleigh, North Carolina. And I just
remember standing at these people and
they're these snapshots that I have that
I will take to my grave that I'm so
grateful for. Absolutely. That's so
important and like
I have this ongoing like running joke
with my fans where I'm like, "I will
stare you down if you're in my audience.
I will flirt with you if you're in my
audience. Like we will have a moment."
So be prepared for that if you come to
my show. And it's real. Like so many
people I swear like you can go on TikTok
will vouch for me and be like, "Oh yeah,
she sang an entire song just to me in my
eyes." Like and I will point to people
cuz sometimes people will I'll look at
them and I'll sing a line to them and
they'll kind of be like What was that?
me and I'm like, yeah, you and I'll
point to them and I'll make sure they
know like I am looking at you and those
moments are so cool because
>> And they're as much for you as it is for
them. Totally, but I think what you said
about like they're just as much of an
individual as you are is I think there's
sometimes this weird thing about like
being a performer and being the person
on stage that you can kind of forget
that the Greek theater is full of people
who like bought a ticket, picked out an
outfit, called an Uber, like spent
probably weeks excited for this night.
Like this is just as much of a moment
for them as it is for you and that's why
I think performing is so much deeper
than just like the songs and the
concerts and like wow, I'm a part of
this, you know, it's not just like I'm a
person in a crowd like I feel a part of
the show. So, I love that. That aspect
is is really really fun. I'm glad that
you got that advice because it's very
[music] true. Yeah. Madison, we ask
every guest the same question on the
show. What do you think happens when you
die? What my knee-jerk reaction is to
say is to say, yeah, like I guess we'll
find out. And my real response,
honestly, I do think that there is more.
I I don't know what it is, but I think
even earlier when we were talking about,
you know,
God in in these different senses, like I
feel what I would define the presence of
God to be in those moments where I'm
holding someone's hand and I'm looking
at them [music]
and we're having this like moment that
is indescribable. Like those are the
things that make me um a believer. In
what? I'm still unsure, but I do think
it's whether it's the universe or God,
whatever the name is that you want to
put on it. Like I think there is um
a higher power of some kind and I I hope
that we get to experience more than than
[music] just this. But again, it's
something that I think I'm okay with not
having all the answers about. I still
don't know what I really think happens.
>> [music]
>> Um I guess I for me I I think the idea
of it being nothing is more
feels more unrealistic to me at least
than there being some other thing and
place we go to. Who knows what it is,
but yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't
feel like this is all for nothing and I
don't feel like we have these beautiful
experiences for no reason and I think
the idea that we just like are born and
then we die,
I don't subscribe to that. So, [music]
and again, maybe it's coping, who knows,
but it it is genuinely how I feel and I
I think that
there's got to be more. Yeah.
I'll be at that great concert in the sky
one day. Yes, absolutely. You ready to
go to Lightning Round? Yeah. Okay, so
I'm just answering these really fast.
Really fast. You got to do it as fast as
you can. Who's the one person dead or
alive you'd want to share your actual
last meal with? Paul McCartney. What
song do you want to be played at your
funeral? Uh uh
uh
Vincent
by Don McLean. Who's your dream
eulogizer at your funeral? Oh god, Paul
McCartney.
>> [laughter]
>> It's going to be all Paul McCartney.
Yeah. Uh what's one YouTube
What's one YouTube show that's still on
your bucket list? Oh, uh oh god, I Hot
Ones would have been a great answer, but
I just did it. Um um um um um
I have to think about this. Hold on.
Hold on. Hold on.
>> Was it Mac 18 or whatever it is? I don't
know where he's at. Um hold on. Give me
1 second. I know it's supposed to be
fast. I'm trying to think. I'm racking
my whole brain.
The Outdoor Boys.
You know Luke? The Outdoor Boys? Yeah.
Come at her retirement.
Uh uh what's your biggest fear? Snakes
or death, but snakes. We've talked
enough about death. Snakes. Not a fan.
What's your greatest regret in life? Not
enjoying and being more present for more
moments than I should have been. I think
that I
was looking forward to other things, not
really enjoying things I when I should
have. Finally, Madison, are you happy? I
am.
You seem really happy and I'm incredibly
happy that I got to share this with you,
Julie. This was such a wonderful
experience, such great food. The stone
crabs were the friends we made along the
way. Absolutely. If you want to deliver
your last words to that camera right
there. What do people usually say?
What's like the energy of the last
words?
>> well, Gordon Ramsay, he said, "All
right, I've got to take a right shit." I
don't know why he sounded like a
Scottish pirate there. Yeah, that did
not sound like Gordon Ramsay, but I get
I got what you were trying to say.
>> Gordon Ramsay. [laughter]
I got it.
>> yeah, I'm good. Nope, can't do it.
>> Um uh You can have a take Gordon Ramsay
if you want to.
>> No, I'm not going to do that. You
already did it for me. Um
I was just going to say "Wubba lubba dub
dub" into the camera.
>> [laughter]
>> I guess I should
>> to give them a "Wubba lubba dub dub".
You got to do it.
Hey.
Bye. No, no, don't use that, please.
Don't use that.
>> [laughter]
>> Um
My last words are thank you so much for
watching. I hope that if you take
anything away from this episode, it's
that we are all just living for the
first time, so be understanding to
people and be kind whenever you can.
Bye. Can you hit them with a "Wubba
lubba dub dub"?
>> And "Wubba lubba dub dub".
Thanks again, everybody. Make sure you
can check out Lockin. You're going on
tour? Where can I find you?
>> Yes, starting Yes, May 11th, I believe
we kick off in Poland [music] and then
we end at Madison Square Garden in New
York on July 14th. Come check it out.
I'll be at the Poland show, man. The
Poland? That's the show you're coming
to?
Krakow? How do you say it? Oh, no, we
can't do this again. We [laughter] can't
do this again.
Krakow.
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