I’m Seth Rollins, and my last meal would be Totino’s Pepperoni Pizza Rolls, BLT on Wonder Bread, corn on the cob, spicy nacho Doritos, Pepsi in a can, TORO sushi, sake, ribeye steak, beef enchiladas, Fideo, Detroit-style pepperoni pizza, Budweiser, Hooters Buffalo Shrimp and Blue Cheese with Salt & Straw, Pots of Gold and Rainbows Ice cream and pumpkin pie for dessert. Every person has exactly two things in common. We all got to eat and we’re all gonna die. Today’s guest is current WWE World Heavyweight Champion and former champion of the Davenport, Iowa, melodic hardcore scene, Seth “Freakin” Rollins. Welcome to the show. Wow, the research is incredible. Well, first question, what’s your favorite track from “Too Pure To Die” 2007 seminole album “Confidence And Consequence”. Oh my. Because I got my favorites. Oh, man. I don’t even know. You’re going in the way back machine, my friend. That’s crazy. How do you know that about me? How does he know this about me? One, we have our ways, but two definitely stumbled upon some interviews from Metal Injection. Oh, yeah. Of you talking about your music taste. Yeah. And also your theme song, heavy, heavy metalcore influence to it. And I could rock that song all day. So I was immediately fascinated. And wanted to know if you ever moonsaulted into a pit. Into a pit? No. I was always too nervous to jump into the pit. I was one of those guys who wanted to get in, but I was like, I don’t, I’m scared. Just spin-kicking, everything’s crazy, man. I respect that. I know the exact type of person at that hardcore show that you are. You can see them like sipping a beer in the back and you see the glint in their eye. You see that fire. Yeah. And they don’t get up, but they just need one person to pull them in. And if we ever end up at the same show. Yeah. Yeah. I’m gonna be that person. You just grab me by the shirt and pull me in. I’m gonna slingshot you in there. And I will go chunk some little hardcore kids, left and right. That’s a deal, baby. Have you ever thought about your last meal before? No, I don’t think so. Not seriously. How often do you think about death in general? I think the older you get, the more you think about it. Right? Yeah. Especially when you have a kid. I still feel like I’m that 16-year-old kid who wants to get in the pit, but I’m just not anymore. My wife’s wild. Like she’s always thinking about it. She’s always freaked out about it. So she brings that into my world, so I get some subsequent anxiety off of her. That seems like a very Irish thing to do. It could be. I don’t know. I think it’s just a Becky Lynch thing. That makes sense. Yeah. I think just these are very specific anxieties for her. Well, I think this meal’s gonna get you a little closer to death with all the ice cream and fried shrimp next to each other. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But I’m right there with you, brother. Yeah. We’re going down, we’re going down together right. Before we get into the meal, I’m very excited to announce that we are releasing a “Last Meals” hat and T, Memento Maori, every time you look in the mirror and remind the people around you of the two things we all have in common, that we all gotta eat and we’re all gonna die. The shirt design features artwork inspired by the show on the front and the back. And you can’t tell me this isn’t the coolest dad hat you’ve ever seen. Face the reality of mortality head-on with our new “Last Meals” hat and T. Available now at http://www.mythical.com. All right, Seth. For our first course, we have a BLT on Wonder Bread, lightly toasted, mayonnaise, tomatoes, shredded iceberg lettuce, some bacon, nice and go and feed in the oven. Then of course we got corn boiled a little bit of char whole lot of butter slathered on it. We got the classic Totino’s Pizza Roll cooked in the microwave. The only way to do it. Yes. Spicy nacho Doritos and an ice-cold can of Pepsi. One, Iowa, this is either a beautiful homage or you’re disgusting stereotype, and I can’t tell what it is, but I think it’s beautiful. Yeah, it’s gorgeous. Man, this takes me back to my kitchen table at home in Iowa. I grew up in a really small-town, Buffalo, Iowa. It’s like right outside of Davenport, Iowa. And Buffalo’s, it’s got the sign that’s less than a thousand people for the population. There’s no stoplights. But my mom in the summertime always used to make BLTs and it was a do-it-yourself situation. ‘Cause she wouldn’t prepare it all nice like this. She’d just put the shit on a bowl and like- Yeah, yeah. You’d have to go make it yourself. But this is, and corn, obviously, corn on the cob. That’s the winner. So I can like feel, it’s like salivating right now. Yeah. Can I eat it? Oh, oh my God. Yeah. Please dig in. I’m following your lead. I’m gonna jump in on the BLT. BLTs are, to me, just one of the most beautiful, perfect foods that if you add anything to it, you take away from it. Oh man, God, this makes me so happy. There’s so many places that ruin delightful foods, perfect foods by trying to make it artisanal. The thick-cut bacon. It doesn’t get crispy. You gotta chew it too hard. Yeah. Artisanal bread, you have to bite through it, scorch the things out the back. Yes. No, no, no. The process is the point. Oh man. Speaking of childhood, I wanna ask you, you can keep eating, man. Just you can absorb the questions. So you grew up wrestling in the backyard as a kid. I did. And throughout your career, you wrestled under a lot of different names. You were Gixx, Taj the Destroyer, for one match, Tyler Black. But to me, the most compelling caricature you ever created was God. I developed a bit of a reputation for having an ego, a little bit, being a little full of myself. My brother is three years older than me, and he is the opposite of me in that regard. He was very humble, very quiet, well-mannered selfless human being, still is to this day. I was not that, I was the opposite of that. I was loud, I was boisterous, I was arrogant. And this, so we’re talking. I mean, he identified these characteristics in me probably from a very young age. I would say like five, six years old. He was already honing in on this. And by the time I was 14, I couldn’t be stopped. I was a monster. As I was developing a character based around these personality traits, I thought, well, what better moniker for someone who thinks they’re the best at everything? You can’t go any higher, right? Yeah. So God was the name. That’s such a beautiful childlike way of viewing it. Yeah. There’s no one higher, right? Literally. I gotta dig in on this corn. Let’s see here. Okay. Alright. That’s nice. Not a bad corn. I was concerned, growing up in Iowa. Yep. You’re not getting any better corn than that. I mean, that means so much coming from you. As a preeminent corn critic. Yes. In all of sports entertainment. Yes, I am. Yeah. I’m the only, I’m the one. Yeah. There’s nobody else from Iowa, it’s me. I’ve gotten years of experience under my belt and this is solid. When I was a kid, I used to just see how fast I could do it. Look at him go. Now that is a man possessed. This is a man who takes no prisoners. He is an absolute corn-eating machine, ladies and gentlemen. How much is stuck in your teeth? It’s gotta be 80%. We won’t know till I make the swallow. So your brother identified all those characteristics in you. And I don’t know if I wanna call him a failed wrestling producer, but another character that he was influential in was Gixx, which I believe was a “Magic: The Gathering” themed shtick. Yeah. Yeah. Two questions, what the hell? And two, why? Yeah. He is my big brother. So he was everything I wanted to be. Anything he loved, I loved it. Didn’t matter, GI Joe, Ninja Turtle, Pro Wrestling. And even as we got into early teenage years, he played “Magic: The Gathering”, which for anybody who doesn’t know, is this dorky little card game with wizards and creatures and I don’t know, I don’t get it. I never played it, I sucked at it, but I tried. And so yeah, Gixx was born. I thought the name was cool at the time. It is a cool name to be fair. It’s something. It’s a name. Yeah, it’s a name. But I don’t know that it’s cool. So put the corn down, go to the pizza rolls, man, these are getting cold and these are terrible cold. I recommend going to the bottom. If you went microwave, there should be some frozen ones somewhere in here. But there’s a system you would put them in the plate and then you would microwave them for half the time. Then you’d have to go in and rearrange them because the ones in the center would just be ice-cold otherwise. Yes. Made me realize, I have no idea how science works. Yeah, yeah. So let’s, let’s do this. This one looks good. You can see it’s got some of the orange bursting out the side. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The softer and squishier the better on a pizza roll I think. Oh my God. Now these chips Spicy Nacho, right? Oh yeah. I spent so many hours playing Madden Football, just eating bags and bags of these, and drinking delicious ice-cold Pepsi from my grandparents’ fridge. I lived with my grandparents for a little while. My mom and I did. And I just spent my summers just sit in my beanbag in my room. That’s all there was to do. Yeah. And play video games, played PlayStation and just smash the thing, throw the controllers, the whole nine, try not to send the PlayStation flying. Because back in the day, kids, the controllers were connected to the system. I don’t know if you know this, they had a cord. It connected them. You couldn’t just throw the sucker. So let’s see here. Let’s have a nice spice. I like the spicy ones. Regular nachos, great. Don’t get me wrong. I’m a Dorito fan. But the kick of the spice. Oh, yes. Yes. That’s the one baby. Technically this still counts as your corn critic portfolio. Because I mean, this is, so does this though. And I think most of this is made from corn, if you really look at it. I’ll tell you this, I haven’t had a full-calorie soda in at least 10 years. You and I both, man So I don’t know if I’m ready for the amount of sugar that’s going to hit me here in this drink. But we’re gonna do it anyway. No, your body craves it. Your body wants this. This is fueling it. Yeah, it does. Back there. Yeah, it does. That’s the, I don’t wanna look at that but that’s the stuff of champions right there. Man, this is a strong start. We got four more courses. We gotta pace ourselves. But next time, I’m beating your in that corn cob. I’m coming. Bro, come on. I’m coming. I’m coming. You didn’t even try. I’m not even sure you like corn on the cob. Hold on. Someone time me. Let’s go, go, go, go, go. Look at him. Look at him. Yeah. I can’t do it. I can’t do it. It’s all right. There’s room for growth. All right, Seth, for course number two, we got a medium rare ribeye. We’ve actually been sooth heating this for about three hours, breaks down the connective tissue, based in butter, garlic, herbs, all that. We got three different kinds of fatty tuna here. We got Otoro, Akami and Chutoro. Different levels of fattiness. We got your soy, ginger, garlic. And then hot sake. If I may pour you some sake, would you mind? Please. It is always proper to poor sake for your elders. Am I your elder? Yeah, by a tiny bit. But we both have fractures in our lower back, at that point- Yeah. We’re old men. We’re just old men that are broken. Well, that’s it. Broken, but we’re not dead yet. We’ll, got there. Well. Oh, hey, now, party foul. You did fill. I’ll Zamboni it off there. Cheers to that. Ah, that’s nice. Kampie, baby. Please dig in and tell me why the sushi? I just love it. I love it. Yeah. I mean, there’s no if, ands, or buts. This is my favorite. You ever see the Netflix documentary “Jiro Dreams of Sushi”? I sure did. So it blew me away. So I initially was going to try to go visit his restaurant. I’m an idiot. It’s booked up for years. Yeah. So I ended up at a gym working out, and I was telling somebody, another fellow American about this. He insisted that I go check out a different sushi place that it was like his sushi place. He’s like, I found out, I’ve been living here for a decade, I found it, it’s amazing. Go check it out. So I went and it was like, I couldn’t even find it. It was one of those where I’m walking the streets of Tokyo. I’m like, where is this place? Finally, I notice it’s in this little tiny basement with no signage. And then I go down there and there’s like six tables, and it’s just run by this sweet old couple that look like they’re 120 years old. They’ve been living there for eons, serving sushi. Anytime I’m there, I’ll make it an effort to get there and see these guys and get the sushi. And I’m gonna start with the leanest one. I’ll join with you. Also, no chopsticks, hands only. Love that. Yeah. And none of this nonsense. Get this outta here. So we just go in, we grab it and we, no, God Jesus. Sorry. You said get it outta here. I’m trying to follow directions. One bite. Beautiful. Especially with the story surrounding it. Yeah, I took my wife there. Now she doesn’t eat fish. She’s never eaten anything from the sea, ever in her life. And they had a sign when we got there, said no vegetarians. But like I said, this couple is so nice. They remembered me. This was four years later, we went back. And so she was like, oh yeah, come on in, come on in. I’m like, my wife, she’s vegetarian. She doesn’t eat fish. Like, ah, it’s fine. So they just fed her a bunch of Tamago, or is it Tamago, the egg? Yeah, Tomago yaki. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The barbecued egg that’s served on, that’s a great food though. Just fed her a bunch of that. And some like avocado rolls or some nonsense. Yeah. But anyway, let’s get deeper into the sake here. Jumping in. Hold on, hold on. Hey, come on now. We gotta pour so we’re ready to go. No, no, I have to pour for you. I’m sorry, I dropped the ball on this. It’s fine. This is the worst shell ever. God dang it. Here we go. All right. All right. Round two. Middle fat. Yep, middle fat. L’chaim, as they say in Japan. They’re Jews in Japan. Oh, that’s nice. Oh yeah. Do you have anything to do after this? What’s your schedule like today? No. Oh, thank God. You know what I gotta do is go watch the Chicago Bears lose, that’s what I gotta go do. I was gonna ask about that, man. No, drink the depression away. Yeah. Well, hey, drink up. Eat up. Here we are. Oh, it’s so fatty. A lot of people say that you are a baby face that acts like a heel. Yeah. You’re able to get away with a lot because you’re so charming and handsome and good at your job and all that. But have you learned anything about just human morality from your career? Yeah, I think there’s a couple things that I’ve learned about it, I guess, and maybe this is part of just getting older, right? Is life is not so black and white and so good and evil aren’t always so black and white. There’s a lot of gray area. And the other thing is that it always changes. The same thing goes with wrestling, right? So to figure out how that applies to a large crowd, what they want or what they want to cheer, the difference between a good guy and a bad guy, heel and a baby face. I think figuring that out and being able to put that into practice teaches you a lot about people. That’s fascinating. It’s interesting that there’s this weird paradox in sports where your physical peak and your mental peak never line up. Right? Your physical peak, maybe in your mid-late twenties, 25, 26, you’re kind of too stupid to know how to use it at that point, you’re not world-weary enough. But by the time you get to your mental peak, say you’re in your mid, late thirties, your back’s broken, you got your jaw broken, all that stuff. You’ve said that you’re in your mental peak of your career right now. What are the things that you’ve learned that you wish you could have had when you were at your physical peak? It’s like a Venn diagram, right? Yeah. In your twenties, you’re unstoppable, right? I mean, you could have asked me to do anything in my twenties and my body would’ve held up. You could’ve thrown me off of a 20-foot ladder into a pile of burning chairs with barbed wire and shards of glass. And I would’ve walked out and been like, I’m good. And then in your forties, right, for wrestling anyway, you’ve been doing it for 20 years. You’re experience levels height, but your body can’t take any of that anymore. Right? You just cannot. So I’m in this great space where the Venn diagrams are overlapping, where like I’m finally starting to become emotionally mature and I’m physically at a point where I can still do some of that stuff. But I know my limitations. And so it’s to try to maximize, right? So get the most outta the least, juice that lemon for all you can, instead of just getting a little juice and tossing on. ‘Cause there’s just not, you don’t get that many lemons. Yeah. Life gives you lemons. You make the lemonade, but the more lemonade you can get outta those lemons, the longer you’re gonna get. ‘Cause you just don’t have that many, there’s a finite number of lemons in life. Damn. Well, cheers brother. There’s a finite amount of sake too. Yeah, there is. We’re here. Course number three. We’re almost at the halfway point of this meal. We got beef enchiladas, homemade enchilada sauce, toasted ancho, guajillo chili. The jacket’s coming off, folks. I’m getting warm, guys. I’m getting warm. All right. We got the refried beans and a little bit of rice, some fedio, and then a little bit of, oh God, my shoulder hurts. And then we have, what do we got in here? Detroit-style pepperoni pizza from Apollonia’s. Some of the best pizza in the city. Apollonia’s. You know Apollonia’s? A win. Yes. My man, let’s go. That’s up there. Wow. We can’t do it as good as them, so we just got it from them. That’s fair. That’s fair. Man, where are we digging into first? What’s the appropriate way to eat this? The fedio, I have probably hadn’t had in a while. I grew up in a half-Mexican household. So my dad, who I call my dad, is my adopted father. He adopted me and he’s Mexican. And so my grandma, just enchiladas and fedio all day, every day. I’m glad you guys threw in the beans and rice. She had that all the time as well. I didn’t even throw that on the menu. It’s the combo platter. It comes with it, man. It’s beautiful. It’s beautiful. So I’m gonna dig in on that stuff first and then we’ll see what happens. But yeah, that’s great. I’m not gonna start conserving bites. Oh, that’s good. Oh, real nice. Oh. Tell me about your stepdad. ‘Cause you said that he’s your hero and you seem to speak very reverently of him. My biological father, I never knew, right? Never knew him growing up at all. My mom just dipped after she got pregnant. She did her own thing. But my mom’s first husband, Ron, whose mother would’ve prepared all this lovely Mexican stuff, he’s who I call dad. So he’s my dad. He’s the person that was there for me, coached me Little League and all that good stuff. And he was the best. And he’s awesome, still a big part of my life. My stepdad, Bob, he’s fantastic as well. So I’ve been so fortunate to have two just amazing male role models in my life. And Bob is the one that’s just on another level in the sense that he was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease, probably, God, maybe a decade or so ago. I think he probably had it for a couple years before that. But yeah, it really started to kick in maybe 10 years ago. And I’d never known anybody that had Parkinson’s or any sort of really debilitating disorder like that. But to see how he’s been able to continue to do the best that he can every single day reminds you that, A, life is short. B, you gotta be grateful, you gotta have gratitude for every single thing that you’ve got and make sure you tell everybody that you love ’em, you know the people that you care about and just try to do the best you can. So there’s just been a lot that I’ve taken away from his experience with Parkinson’s and between him, and my mom and my dad, dad, I’ve been very fortunate in the parent department. You can’t ask for a better setup than that. You said, you absolutely love the Midwest. Love it. And you weren’t a small-town kid trying to get out. But obviously, your career has taken you in that direction. I was a kid that said, I hate this small-town. Yeah. I hate this small-town attitude. I don’t want to end up doing the things that everyone else is doing. That was my mindset as a teenager. I’m not gonna get stuck here. And then again, as you get older, you start to realize, well, maybe it’s not so bad. Yeah. Maybe home ain’t so bad. My wife and I split time between Los Angeles and Iowa when we’re not on the road. And I’ve got a wrestling school there and I’ve got two coffee shops there as well. My family’s all there, so I go back as often as we can. Look, look, let’s talk about- I’m just covered in filth. Yeah, you are. But I mean, here’s- Oh, I’m a dirty boy. Can you call me a dirty boy? Here’s the- No, I’m not gonna do that. Sorry, I got weird for a sec. This is- You’re too full of sake. That’s the problem. This is the ticket right here. I want you all to know that this, if you’ve never had Detroit-style pizza, it’s this delicious crispy edge. That’s what does it, man. The thickness? Take it or leave it. But this man, whoa. Yeah, it’s brick cheese. It’s literally a hybrid between cheddar and mozzarella. And it is just a beautiful expression pizza. There’s no childhood memory for this. Nope. This is just, I just love pizza. When you have such a singular drive for success, there are two camps, it’s either the extreme self-love people, who are like, my body is a temple and God has given me these, God, the childhood wrestler that I’ve heard of, has given me these abilities and I need to honor it by doing the best I can. Or there’s the other side, which is the self-hatred people. Do you think you fall into either of those camps? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. More so the self-loathing. I don’t think I’m on the other side at all. You find things, little imperfections in everything you do. I’ll go have a match or a segment or a promo and I’ll come back and everybody will have told me all these great things about it. But I get to a point where I can’t even watch my own matches back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ll have the match. And I’m like, oh, that felt really good. I had this amazing connection with the audience. I felt like everything went the way I thought it was going to go in my head maybe even better. It was great. I’m living on this like high of adrenaline, endorphins and all that. And if I go back and watch it, instead of being able to enjoy it the same way, I’ll just shit all over it. I’m gonna watch this interview back and I’m gonna go, why did you ask Seth “Freakin” Rollins to call you a dirty boy? And I’m gonna be incredibly embarrassed by it. Yeah. But the difference is everybody else is also gonna be very embarrassed by it. I heard that you’re playing a villain in an upcoming Marvel movie. Oh. “Captain America: Brave New World” Tell me about that, man. I mean, it is Hollywood. Nope, can’t do that. You can’t do that? Can’t tell you nothing about that. But do you think Hollywood’s gonna be a big part of your future? It was a really good experience and I think it’s gonna be pretty cool. I think our audience is gonna love it. I think their audience is gonna love it. So it was a cool crossover to be able to jump into some totally different skin and try a new thing out for me. I’m not comfortable. Look, I’m 38. I’ve only been doing wrestling for 20 years. Yeah. Only, nonstop. That’s it. I worked in a crappy restaurants and a car wash when I was in my early twenties. And that’s it. That’s a good retirement plan though. Other than that, all I’ve done is wrestling. So anytime I get outside of my comfort zone, I am nervous. I’m like, I suck at this. I’m like, I don’t know what I’m doing. But I was in good hands and it was a really fun experience. And I’m excited to see how it turns out. And hopefully, everybody doesn’t hate me. I don’t wanna have ruined to everybody’s vision of this character. So I’m doing my best. I hope people enjoy it. I just hate that you’re gonna watch that performance in that movie and you’re just gonna go, “I suck, I could’ve done so much better.” Yes, I will. Yeah. No question. No question. I’ll be as sweaty as you are right now. Yeah. Yeah. It’s dried up from all the dehydration from the salty foods. Thank you very much. Nice, nice, nice. Seth, for course number four, we’re actually gonna have our server bring it in. But we got the Hooters buffalo blue cheese shrimp. Here’s our Hooters girl, Trevor. Thank you so much. Here’s your buffalo shrimp with blue cheese. Yes. Budweiser, I even got the little wet nappies here. Oh yeah. Thank you so much. And sir, I just wanted to say that the atmosphere in my living room with my friends in 2015, WrestleMania 31 when you cashed in the money in the bank contract to win the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, electric. Hell yes. Thank you for that. Big Hooters fan? Yeah. Well, so we used to go to Hooters to watch all the WWE pay-per-views. No way. When we were teenagers. Yeah. They had them on Sunday nights. All you had to do was order a soda and french fries. The waitresses hated our guts. We would sit there for four hours, the show was three, but you’d get there an hour early to make sure you had the best table. Sit there for four hours we’d order fries and a soda because we’d get refilling the soda and then we would tip them like $2. Yeah. They would hate WWE nights. ‘Cause we’re all just poor dumb teenagers that don’t want to spend any money. Do you ever think about now like making a large-scale donation to Hooters to make up for that? I really should. I really should. And Budweiser, baby. Bud heavy. Bud Heavy. Bud heavy, baby. Cheers to that. Cheers. Yeah, it’s nice. It’s so much better. What an experience? Oh, it’s so much better. Yeah. I can’t even do the light beer. I can’t do it at all. And these are the shrimp that you couldn’t afford as a kid. These are the ones. Yeah. Shout out to my stepdad. When he would go to the pay-per-view with us, he would buy us the buffalo shrimp. That’s clutch. With blue cheese. Blue cheese as well. Not ranch. Dipping shrimp in blue cheese, that is the American way. So I came up with a bit of a wrestling persona. And I cut a 42nd promo. I don’t like where this is headed already. I know, I told you you’re gonna hate it. I would love if you could gimme some notes. Would you mind doing that? It’s on my phone. Okay. All right, man, I’m gonna. Play it. I’m embarrassed now. You should be. Okay, here we go. Maybe it’ll be great. Well, it’s okay. Well, yeah. Okay. Let’s just play it. For the past 18 months, I have been living the alpha baby mindset. Yeah. I have transformed my body, my spirit, my soul into the toddler terminator, the infant insurrectionist, the diaper destroyer. And I will grind your bones to make my daily num nums. I am begging, I am craving one, one competitor who has the stones to push me to greater heights. So if you think you have what it takes, go to http://www.MythiConTickets.com to sign up for the hardest challenge of your life. ‘Cause baby made a boom, boom, baby need wiping. So I think you get what I’m going for. It’s sort of a psychosexual oedipal situation. It’s like, is this a thing that he actually does on the weekends? Does he just like the diaper? Obviously, we didn’t realize how skimpy adult diapers were. ‘Cause we have some hair sticking out, so then we just had to wrap me in a towel and fasten it like a diaper. Really an homage of the DIY wrestling era. Oh. So. I’m gonna tell you this right now. There’s money to be made with that character. Money where? Ah, well, a lot of different places. But first of all, in great shape. Thank you. Looks great. Appreciate you. Surprised a little bit there. Same, man. You and me both, brother. Second of all, how many takes did it take you to get that without losing your absolute mind? There’s no way I could drop that last line without losing my mind. Baby made a boom, boom, baby need wipey. I preferred grind your bones to make my daily nums nums. That to me was more poetic. Jesus, that’s good. Do you know how many takes it took? I need to know. Three. Three total. Wow, that’s pretty good. No prompter. Where’s my contract? That’s pretty good. I’m gonna take that. Show that to my students back at the wrestling school. Are you actually? That’s the commitment. Yeah. That’s the commitment to the character. Yeah. Right. You said you were nervous, you were afraid. You didn’t wanna show that to me, but you did it. You went outside the box, but you committed to being a giant baby fighter or whatever you were. So technically it was a baby food-eating contest. Oh, okay, alright. But it had the WWE heel appeal. And I did win the belt. Yeah. Congratulations. When you put on the outfit, do you feel yourself physically transformed? There’s something called the Batman Effect, right? You put on a mask, suddenly you’re no longer that person. You effectively are the mask. It’s a lot. That’s a lot. Many times I’ve gone out there and done this. So I’ve put on my fancy sparkly tights, and my little tidal belt, and my jacket, and all that. Wet my hair like a weirdo. And I used to get adrenaline and big shows I still do get a lot of adrenaline, but sometimes I’ll be sitting behind that curtain and I’ll be in Stateline Nevada and just tired. And I don’t really want to go out and fall down ’cause it hurts. And then my music hits and I get up slowly off the chair and as soon as I walk through the curtain. And there’s like a six-year-old kid just sitting right there, losing their minds. Yeah. That’s the moment. Right? So the dress and the suits, and the see-through stuff, and the whatever, the glasses, all that stuff. When I go out and I see those kids and they’re losing their minds and it’s something that I know that might change the rest of their lives, that turns me just like that. Are you excited for the future of wrestling or scared for the future of wrestling? There is so much wrestling that happens right now, and because the business has progressed so much. The in-ring talent that we have right now is beyond any generation. It’s wild. You can do something that you think’s gonna change the face of your character and your career. And it’s hot for 24 hours and then boom, gone, onto the next thing. And that didn’t used to be the case. And so it’s definitely much harder on today’s generation to try to find their footing, so to speak. The speed at which life just hurdles faster and faster and faster and people care less and less and less about the things that they used to care about. Does that ever freak you out? Or do you just like drown it in some shrimp and some beer? No, that freaks me out. Yeah. Hey, man. How old are you? You my age, 37, 36? 31. We’re not even of the same generation. You’re a young millennial. Don’t turn on me now. We were bonding. You’re a young millennial, right? Yeah. Yeah, so I’m an old millennial, so old millennials, we have this position of being the last without the technology and the first with the technology. Right. And so we kind of get both sides of it. And there’s plenty of times where I yearn for the days of no iPads and screen time wasn’t even a conversation. Yeah. Now raising my daughter, I’m like, man, I don’t know what to do. It’s inevitable, right? It exists. So I’m like hiding it from her is useless. But how do I manage that? How do I teach this? How do I hope she just wants to read a book sometimes? Yeah. It’s very interesting. And yeah. On a macro scale, I wonder the same things about the entertainment industry, I wonder about life. I go where’s the ceiling on this? We only have so much capacity in this information processor up here. What’s the next step? It’s very interesting. You still here? Oh, man. Jesus Christ. I thought you left. Seth, we’re at our last course, man. We got dessert. We got the Pots of Golden Rainbows, Ice cream from Salt & Straw. We actually had to make a special call and get a favor because it is not in season right now. No it is not. So you can take one home. You knew that, and you still asked for it. Thanks for making our jobs easy. Then we got homemade pumpkin pie. This is homemade. Oh, is it homemade? Crust, custard everything homemade, whipped cream, homemade. This is in season, however, it is pumpkin season. It is basic-bitch season. It sure is. I don’t know if I can say that or not. But I am a basic-bitch. I love pumpkin. So I’m gonna go into that first. Let’s go. It’s the best pie. It’s the best pie. I don’t care what anybody says. It’s the best pie. It’s the best pie for three months of the year. Jesus man. Oh, it’s beautiful. It’s pretty freaking good. Tell me about the ice cream. Salt & Straw does a hell of a job. I love ice cream. I stumbled upon Salt & Straw some years back. And I’m addicted. I go every single month ’cause they drop new flavors every month. They got some amazing ones like Blackberries, and Birthday Cake, and The Great Candy Copia. But my number one all time, first time it touched my lips, I was immediately transported back to being a child. It’s Pots of Golden Rainbows, it’s Lucky Charms. Damn. Have you had it? I’ve never had this, no. Oh, dude, it’s so good. You owe me, Salt & Straw. It’s so good, man. Especially when you get some in there. God dang. See. What is that? Did it get you? Yeah, but what are the chemical compounds that make Lucky Charm flavor? It’s like the oatiness, oh, there it is. Yeah. Savory oatiness, man. Wow. And then you get the little marshmallows in there. Corn critic branches out into the oat world. Take notice. Dude. Goodness, God. That’s amazing. Wrestling’s dangerous. Yep. You are out there flipping around. Yep. Getting hit in the face with ladders. Hopefully not. Broke your jaw once. Yeah. Has having a kid influenced the way that you see your career now? Have you ever had any very scary close calls in the ring where you’re like, yo, I don’t know if I can keep doing this? I had a lot of injuries. I’m constantly banged up. Bumps and bruises here and there. Separated my shoulders more times than I can count. Broke my jaw, blew my knee out, completely, tore my MCL a separate time after that. I had a little baby girl and then you start to think like, okay, well, when do I wanna wrap this thing up? Mostly so I can be an active father for her, and not just be gone on the road all the time. I went to see one of my favorite bands a couple weeks ago called The Wonder Years, and the lead singer, Dan, is a good friend of mine, and he’s got this bit where he tells the audience, we’re closer to the end than we are to the beginning. Yeah. And that resonated with me and the crowd boos and they’re like, no, don’t boo. But then he turns it around, he’s like, we got a lot more in the tank. Yeah. And so that’s how I felt. That was a real fire up moment for me. I’m up there in the bleachers, not in the pit, nowhere near the pit. And then you moonsault right in the pit. Yeah. No, no, no. But I wanted the moonsault in the pit. But the dad in me said, don’t moonsault into the pit. So the yin and the yang, we’re balanced out. But yeah, man, it’s the first time in a long time, probably in my whole career that I’ve been like, what’s the end game here? When am I gonna hang it up? And what’s next? If anything. When you hanging it up? I don’t intend on stopping anytime soon. Like I said, I’m still in that window. The business is hot, I’m having a lot of fun. So I don’t know. I don’t see it anytime in the immediate future, let’s just say that. Yeah, I did wanna talk about death because somebody that you worked very, very closely with, Windham Rotunda, AKA Bray Wyatt passed away earlier this year. Yeah. And sent a lot of shockwaves around the community. You had a really beautiful tribute to him in the ring actually, where you mimicked his motions in the turnbuckle and all the fireflies in the crowd lit up. How much did that mean to you to be able to do that? It really does feel like a family often. And Windham was someone that I loved and worked with very closely for many years. We came up in the business together. And so I was very close with him and so it was a huge shock that he had passed and left. Still didn’t feel real sometimes, but most of the crew had gotten together on Friday for our SmackDown show and they were able to grieve together and breathe that collective sigh, talking about him and doing all that. But I wasn’t there. I was home with my family and I didn’t have a chance to see everybody until the following day. It was a live event and on a Saturday. And so I was a step behind. And so I felt like I hadn’t grieved and everybody else had already started that process and I was behind. And I remember thinking, and then I thought about doing something of his in the ring. And I was in there with Finn Balor, who was another good friend of mine. And I didn’t tell him anything. I didn’t tell him anything about what I was thinking or what I was going to do, and I didn’t really know what I was going to do. And then it got to the point where if I was gonna do something, it was gonna be now or never. And it just came over me, this feeling of his spirit was just there. It just grabbed me. And then I did way more than I even expected to, I popped up and did his little spider thing that he was able to do. I end up in the corner upside down the way he did. I even did like his mandible claw, which he used to shove down my throat all the time. And it was a very cathartic experience for me. The beginning of the grieving process for me, to really let all that out. I got to talk with the crowd afterwards and cried a lot, as you would. And it was crazy, man. Like I said, it still doesn’t entirely feel real to me. I expected us to go into the Hall of Fame together, have our kids play together, those types of things. And just to know that you’re not gonna get that experience doesn’t really feel real, I suppose. Has that changed your own outlook on life and death at all? Anytime you lose somebody like that, like I said, you can’t help. All you can feel after the sorrow is the gratitude that you’re still able to exist and be as a part of life. This mystery of life that we just get, I get to experience, I get to experience. It’s all gratitude. If you feel anything but gratitude, you’re a crazy person. Agreed man. Well, I’m incredibly grateful for you taking the time to do this. Applying me with sake shots, eating pumpkin pie with me, letting me say inappropriate things. Are you ready to jump into the lightning round? Lightning round. Let’s go, man, yeah. Maybe a little. Where’s the lightning round. Don’t need that anymore. Don’t need that. Oh. That’s not one. You wanna take one of these home? You can take that one home. Other than me, who’s the one person dead or alive you’d want to share your actual last meal with? My wife? No, we had other than your wife too. What’s the song that you’re playing at your funeral. Can’t be your current entrance music in WWE. Who the hell wrote these? Well, first of all, I won’t have a funeral, note that, no funeral. Cremation. Yeah. Burn me up. Plant me in a tree. Burn it down, man. Yeah, there you go. You know the deal. “I Just Want To Sell Out My Funeral” by The Wonder Years. That’s the name of the song. Hell yeah. You get one hell-in-a-cell-match against any wrestler past or present, who’s it gonna be? Ah, since we were just talking about him, I’d love to have another shot at it with Windham. Yeah. We had one of the more infamous ones of all time and I think both of us always wanted to go again. Yeah, love that, man. Who plays you in the biopic? Maybe Jared Leto. Oh, he’d be good. Yeah, maybe Jared Leto. I’d say Jason Momoa, but he’s more of a Roman Reigns kind of vibe. Yeah, little islander-type vibe. Maybe go Jared Leto. I just said Logan Paul or Jake Paul. Logan. Do you think you could beat Logan Paul in a fight? Do I? Yeah, like street fight. Yes. Can we air that live on Mythical Kitchen was the next thing? Why, do you guys do live? Do you do live stuff? Yeah, we do lives. It’s mostly for charity, for children’s pediatric hospitals. But we can just do a street fight. I’m in. As long as we can get Conor Kerr involved. Let’s go, all for charity. Heard it here first folks, it’s happening. Oh God. What’s your biggest fear? Spiders. Spiders, they’re the worst. I hate them so much. They’re the worst. I have friends who wanna keep them alive when you find them, what are you talking about? Soft generation. It’s the kids, they’re soft. Get ’em gone. No kill them. Burn ’em alive. Spiders are meant to be killed. What’s your greatest regret in life? Greatest regret, God. Being dishonest. With anyone in particular or just yourself? It all stems from being dishonest with yourself, I think. I think you end up being dishonest with other people because you’re dishonest with yourself. Finally. Are you happy? I’m so happy not just because I’m fed and slightly buzzed. I was gonna say. But ’cause I’m alive, man. Yeah. And honestly, I mean that not in a hilarious way. I get to do the job that I always wanted to do my entire life. I’m married to a woman who is beyond anything I could have ever imagined for a partner in life. I got a baby girl that, I never even wanted to have kids. Really. Yeah. Never thought about it, was too busy worried about myself. I get to live the dream. I have no right to have as good of a life as I do. And I’m extremely happy. I think you do have a right, man. I think you do have a right. I want you to go hug little 13-year-old Colby Lopez eating fedio in the backyard and say, we did it man. We did it. Yeah. He’d tell me to off. Speaking of which, deliver your last words into that camera right there. My last words. My final words. God, I would just say thank you. Thank you for allowing me to live. It’s the greatest gift. Damn, that was profound Seth, man. No, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. Really a fantastic conversation. Everybody make sure to check out Seth “Freakin” Rollins on WWE. You got any cool matches coming up? We got crown jewel coming up sometime early November and then Survivor series coming up after that in late November. And then every Monday you can catch me. I’m on Raw. And I’ll be watching from my local Hooters, just a diet Pepsi and a thing of fries tipping a buck 50. And I apologize. Oh, God bless you. God bless you. Real, man. Thank you so much. Cheers, man. Thank you. Face the reality immortality head-on with our new “Last Meals” hat and tee. Available now at http://www.mythical.com.