You have to know what you wanna do and who you wanna be by 23 or you’re– There’s too much pressure on kids right now. It is, it’s a lot of pressure. And social media doesn’t make it easier too ’cause they’re saying people that are successful and they’re like yeah well some of those people have been putting in 10 years. Welcome to “Trevor Talks Too Much” the show where I just talk, sometimes to another person, sometimes to Jamie, sometimes just to myself. I’m your host Trevor Evarts, master baker, mythical soft boy, mortal enemy of Shayne Robert Topp. Coming for you Shayne. Today I spoke with Sk8, also known as Nathan Maloley, he’s a musician, singer song writer, rapper, and we talked about all sorts of stuff. We talked about the pressures of growing up in the digital social media age, the pressures of having to be successful by a certain point in your life or feeling like you’re a failure. And some other fun stuff like our favorite movies and shows as always. It was a great time. I actually, I hate, ’cause this reminds me the whole grind set community I think is really funny in an ironic way. Like here’s the keys to success like– Oh I was like, is this another thing I don’t know? No you know– But I do know. I do know. Like the grind set Yes. Right yeah it’s like mindset the grind you know? And there’s some really funny jokes. ‘Cause it’ll be here’s my sigma grind set. Wake up at three in the morning my pants. Ponder success for four hours, eat breakfast, walk around the block listening, there’s some really funny jokes but then there’s some people that are actually the sigma grind set people and it I hate it so much, they’re the worst people. The whole oh my god here’s what you have to do, here’s my five keys to success, so here’s how to be a millionaire by age 21, here’s how I did it. I hate that. I don’t like it either, especially because it’s like okay that worked for you but I’m not waking up at 5 AM, I’m not doing these random things that they’re all doing. They’re like oh you can totally do it except this. And you know how many of those people started with money? Exactly. All of ’em. No it’s so funny I’ll see these pages pop up on my Instagram explore page sometimes and it’s like success motivation post. Did you know that when Leonardo DiCaprio was 14 he was broke and now he’s a multi-millionaire? You know how he did that? Hard work. And it’s like. Okay. So how does that help me? Do I just have to be Leonardo DiCaprio? Do you have any feasible tips? I don’t know, I hate that whole culture. And it was funny when we were talking about it today say it just reminded me of that and how it’s so funny though. I love doing it ironically. Yes. I love talking about the stigma grind set ironically because I am a sigma and I do have the grind set and I grind and hustle every day but in an ironic way. So if you’re out there and you grustle like I do that’s. I don’t know why– Grustle? That’s also. Grustle is a great word. Grind and hustle that’s a grustle. You gotta have the grustle and the grind set Jamie. You don’t get it, you’re just not a sigma male like I am. I am not. You’re not a Chad sigma male grustler grinder like I– What would you do if someone called you a beta? I would kill them in a video game. That’s my favorite thing because Twitch has really bad or Twitch there’s like TOS stuff that you can’t threaten violence against anyone. And so there’s so many streamers when someone’s pissing them off they’re like oh my god I literally wish you would die in a video game, or I’m gonna kill you in a video game. They would just add in a video game at the end of their threats. ‘Cause it makes it so that they can’t get banned for it. So I always do that now when I’m playing games, I’m like oh my god I literally wish you would die in a video game. That’s hilarious. Anyway. But onto. Sk8! Real life. Sk8! Sk8! One more time. Sk8! Okay. Well everybody welcome Skate. Thank you for being here. Sup? Thank you for being here man. Thanks for having me man. Do you wanna give a quick little intro of yourself to the people? Yo what’s up? It’s Sk8. That was perfect. Very well done. You’re a musician mainly by trade I would say. You make a lot of music. You are a rapper but also recently you’ve been doing a little bit of delving into some kinda pop alternative style stuff which I love. You listened to it, “Last Day on Earth”? Yes I did, I actually listened to it a bunch today just while I was working. Awesome. I’m a big pop punk fan. I feel like– Who is your favorite? Who’s my favorite? Pop punk. Probably Falling in Reverse. Okay. Maybe. Okay you diving really deep okay. Yeah yeah yeah. I feel like I missed out on it a little bit though. ‘Cause I’m 22. Okay yeah. And so I feel like when all of pop punk was really popular I was a lot younger. Yeah it would’ve been what, 2000, three, five– five yeah yeah. So I was pretty young. And then so I hit my kinda emo punk stage a lot later in my life. Okay. Where I was like oh here is all these really old songs that I really like and I never got to listen too– Yeah I think I was what middle school, it would’ve been like middle school. Yeah when Mike Hammond all them were coming out. Since it’s kind of I feel like making a comeback in the pop, is that kinda why you switched over to a little bit more of that or is it just something that you really like? It was more kinda just like experimenting. You know who Rook is? Yeah yeah. So Rook Drums for MGK. and he’s a really good friend of mine. We’ve been friends in L.A. for like four years now. And but we had never really made music. And when we got into the studio he kind of was obviously, he can play actually guitar too so he can play everything. He’s like you should just try doing what you already do, which was mostly rap, and do it over live instrumentation. So he came in there and was playing guitars and we actually started by doing a lot of remixes. And that’s where it started. We remixed “Sweet Emotion” we remixed a lot of crazy pop punk songs that probably will never come out but that’s how it kinda started. And then we started diving in, we’re like yo we should do a whole project. I think our first song that we really okay this is fire is “Pages” the one we dropped. Okay yeah. On the “Last Day on Earth”. And then he was kinda like yo we gotta do a whole project like this. And so that’s kinda how it started. Dude you have Good Charlotte on album. Yeah it was crazy. That’s sick. It was crazy. We were just even talking about just some of these gate keepers that were in that scene so quickly to be like yo I love this. And get on it. Even Derek. When I sent him the “Shooting Star” record it was already finished, the Shooting Star record was done. I had the hook written and he was like, I was like do you wanna want me to open up a verse or something for you? And he was like I just wanna sing the hook. And I was like okay cool. So I opened up the hook and he did his thing. So it was really cool just to have the support, and even Good Charlotte, Joel and Benji like we went into their studio at the Madness Studio and they treated me like family and knocked out. We actually have two songs so. Oh really? Yeah and there’s probably– That’s awesome. Gonna be another one coming. Oh that’s exciting. In the future yeah. A little un released. Wow. Now I’m excited. But it was cool, it was cool, it was really fun. That’s sweet. So when did you move to L.A.? And did you move to L.A. to pursue music? Yeah I moved, to so originally from Omaha Nebraska, and then I moved to L.A., shoot like seven years now I think. Wow. Yeah when I was 19, so 26 now, yeah seven years. Wow wait when did I move to L.A.? I didn’t know you then. Well Jamie. Why don’t you know this? What the heck? I’m gonna guess 2019. No it was 2018. Where are you originally from? I’m from Idaho. Oh okay. Boise Idaho. Oh Boise, okay. Sick, I’ve been over there. Yeah it’s pretty fun, It’s a good time. Boise State then? Oh yeah, big time. Frick U of I. I mean I was like, I grew up in Boise so everybody there is a Boise State fan. And that’s also the only– Are they? Well it’s also– Are they pretty they like, ’cause you know certain states and stuff they’re like we don’t really like like you know that Nebraska football, like a lot of people don’t like Nebraska football. Really? Even when there’s a lot of people that do a lot of people just don’t like Nebraska football. They’ll like different. I think in Boise, ’cause there’s no professional sports teams. Same with us. So ti was like Boise State football plus we used to be really good 12 years ago we were really good. Yeah really good. And so. And the blue turf. Yeah smurf turf. Y’all sent smurf to message with that one. But it was going to live sporting events, that was our NFL was going to Boise State football games, and they were good and so it was fun. So I think I don’t know a lot of people are Boise State fans, there’s some that aren’t. There’s some people that are U of I fans, but I’d say there’s a lot of– So you like it out here, difference? Yeah yeah. Change. I hated it when I first moved here. Really? Yeah it was like, I don’t know it’s just so hard. Just trying to fit into a different groups or stuff or– Yeah it was like I didn’t have a ton of friends out here when I first moved out, I didn’t know a lot of people. So I felt very lonely but. For sure. Once I started working here and made some friends and now I have some really cool people that I know, and I really love it, it’s a lot of fun. But yeah I moved out in 2018, so I would’ve been 19 as well. ‘Cause or I moved out right before my birthday so I moved out here when I was 18. So about three, four years? Yeah four years. Four years? Cool. It’s pretty crazy. It’s weird to think about it I think I– It’s almost like a, as I step in, excuse me, to seven years I’m probably you probably feel the same way but it’s like it kinda raised me as, from Omaha raised me obviously til 19, but from 19 to I feel like 30. I’m not 30 yet but that’s a whole new learning experience too, especially if you leave your home town and stuff. So I feel like I learned a lot on my own too, just being out here and trying to get in where you fit in and– No for sure, 100%. I mean growing up in Idaho it was a lot of fun and I really loved it, but being out here I’ve learned so much. Just in experiences, in struggling, in trying to find a place here in L.A. But it’s fun, I love it, I can’t imagine I’ll be going anywhere any time soon. And discipline. ‘Cause you could go out every night if you wanted to. Oh yeah. That’s why I’m very– Every single night. Thankful that I am a degenerate scum bag gamer. So what was it like growing up in Nebraska? Right now I feel like I have, like you said we don’t have a professional team. There’s not too many really really popping artists outta the city, so there’s a lotta opportunity to grow with the city. And any time I go back there’s always love, I can always do a show. That’s so cool. And so that’s good. But growing up I played basket ball. So yeah yeah that was my first love. Baller. Yeah. Yeah same. Actually guitar was, as crazy, I just found out I remember playing guitar when I was I think 10 years old. I was taking guitar lessons and my mom just reminded me of it ’cause she had sent me a text. And she was like yo you know when you were playing guitar the teachers said that your hands were too small and you got really really mad. And I was like you know what? I remember playing guitar , but I don’t remember why I quit. And she was like yeah you were really upset that the teacher had said your hands were too small. So right after that I guess after 10 that’s when I put the guitar down and then started playing basketball and really started I wanted to man I wanted to play professional basketball, that was my dream. And then when I was like 15 I dove back into the music, started doing a lot of just writing lyrics to upcoming or beats that were hot at the time. And that’s when I really started, all right I kinda like this music, I wanna. I wanna know what teacher tells a 10-year-old– You know what I mean? That their hands are too small. I’m like yo! It’s a child, of course their hands are small, what do you mean? You just gonna turn me away like that? But you just know, you’re like yeah no your hands aren’t gonna get any bigger. How you gonna say that? Guess they’re too small. And I’m over there like I guess you’re right. That’s so stupid. And just quit. Just put it down. No. That doesn’t make any sense. Bro I know. She was like you were really really upset. I was like yeah I bet I was. That’s insane, that’s so funny. No I was a basketball player too. Were you? Yeah I mean at a small Idaho school, so nothing crazy. But I had a rough relationship with basketball my junior and senior year of high school. Why is it? I just had a, oh no, wait I, I can say this, I’ve said it, but I just had a negative experience with a coach just. Oh yeah. It’s always. I don’t think he listens to this. It’s mad political. It was weird. It’s political too. Yeah it is. And it was just, it was unfortunate but it was kind of after I finished high school I was like I don’t wanna go to college– Were you a shooter, dribbler? I was a point guard. Okay. ‘Cause I grew late so I was pretty short for most of high school, and then kinda around my junior year I sprouted up. So then by the time I was a senior I was probably six-foot-two. And then I just– Oh wow. Stayed playing point guard. Yeah I was always, I’m six foot, but I was probably six foot when I was a junior too. So I was always like oh man I might grow in college and be. Never happened. No. Killed my dreams. I was like if I could just be a couple more inches taller man. I definitely played a very Magic Johnson-esque point forward. Fire. Where I was dishing it and then I would just go bullet. ‘Cause it was always playing 2A Idaho basketball. The teams were– What’s 2A? 2A’s the divisions that we have. So 5A’s like the biggest school so– Oh okay. 1A is the smallest school, so we were a pretty small school. Okay ’cause we went by A, B, C, or class A, class B, class C– Yeah okay so it’s kinda the same thing. So we were second from the bottom as far as size. So there wasn’t a lot of really good basketball teams. And so whenever it was matching up, it was they’d either put a big guy that wasn’t as slow on me ’cause I was taller or they’d put their point guard on me, he was usually five-foot-six or five-foot-seven. Oh so you could shoot over top of him. Shorter people. So it was like shoot over– Take him down. Yeah take him down to the block whatever. Yeah I miss playing basketball, do you still play at all? Nah haven’t yeah. No. I did a couple years ago I was in just a little outdoor league and that was fun. I wanna get back into it though. So do I. It’s a good workout too. Yeah it’s really good. When I had stopped for a minute and went and did it after the first couple days I’m like damn, my whole body is sore. No I did the same thing, it had been like a year since I played an actual pickup game. You forget how. Yeah I was up and down the court a couple times I was like oh my god. Sup. How did I just run, in high school I was just running up and down. Up and down. But you played in college right? Yeah I played in college for a year. Okay awesome. And I went to it was like a D2 college, it was smaller school, private school in Nebraska. And it was also a performing and arts school. Okay. ‘Cause I was still doing music and I was like yo I wanna still kinda be tapped into that just to. And so they actually, it’s crazy they had a podcast room and I would go after hours to the podcast room and record on the setup on Garage Band. But it wasn’t really set up for. Music. Yes. So it came out a little different but it was cool because I then got a little bit of notoriety at the college. So when you went to college or? I went to culinary school. Okay. So not really. Well but in the colleges they’ll have a budget where they bring artists that are pp in artist and the school will have a homecoming and they’ll have a pop in artist. And they would always let me be the guy that would open up, so that was really cool. Oh that’s awesome. So I started getting a lot of traction in Hastings which was two hours outside a Omaha. And then I had already kinda put my little imprint in Omaha obviously. So that was kinda cool in how I started just gaining little fans here and there in the city and in Nebraska. Yeah so what was the kind of jumping point? Was it not until you moved to L.A. that you kind of blew up and got big or was there a moment that it kinda happened? Yeah it was a crazy moment. And it’s crazy how it all lined up too. So I had just finished my first year of college and I was deciding, I just wasn’t really as passionate as I was before with basketball. And I was starting to fall more in love with the music. And so I was yo I had to make a decision I was like nah I’m gonna just quit school. And I went back home and I was staying with my mom and that was at the same time Vine was really at a peak. So Jack and Jack, have you heard of jack and Jack? I don’t know. They were one of the bigger Viner’s at the time. There was nine of them, the Grears, them– Okay yeah yeah yeah. I was gonna say, I probably remember them but it was also probably when I was a freshman, sophomore in high school. Yeah you were young. But they were one of the tops and they had went to west side which was a school, my high school that I transferred actually my senior year, but they went to my old school. And they remembered me doing music, so when they had got cracking they were like you we wanna make music. Would you do a song with us? And I was like yeah sure. So we went to the studio in Omaha, we made a song, and til this date that song right away I think in three months it went gold. And that was before digital streaming platforms. So it was really good. We did that and then they went on a whole tour of house of blues shows and they wanted me to open up. So this was right after college. I came home probably for four months and made the song, did well, went on the tour. I was opening up just playing all the music that I had. And that’s when I started gaining a social media presence. And that kinda helped me on Instagram and Twitter and then after that I went on my own tour and did 400, 500 cap venues. Okay. And did really well. Then I had enough money to kinda stay out here ya know? So I moved out here 19, 20. Sweet that’s awesome. Also I love your chain. Appreciate it. I was looking at it, that’s really cool. Yeah it’s a cool company, I think it’s called halfway dead. I wish my name was shorter. I like it with the three. You could do T-R-E-V. Yeah can we get a– Trev. Can we get a chain but can we make Rhett and Link– Oh Trev? Pay for it? Yes. We need a Trev chain. I’m gonna type it into studio facility request right now. Can we ask? Can we get Terrence on it? Someone?? Tell ’em Sk8 said. Tell ’em Sk8 said I need a chain for my show. No that’s super cool. So are you enjoying it? Do you love what you do? I love it. That’s awesome. I love it man. That’s the one thing that it’s just I would rather be chasing my dreams and doing music than doing anything else so. ‘Cause I was the kid in school that I just wasn’t that interested. I was really, if I’m being honest I was just going to school to play basketball so I could check into the game and get by. So not to say that school isn’t good, ’cause I think it really is good just for making your brain a lot more. Full but. Yeah man there was just something that I wasn’t too excited about it. So yeah. It’s funny that you say that ’cause I kind of had the same experience, I just didn’t end up going to college. ‘Cause I was thinking I didn’t really know what I wanna do after high school. And I was like I could go to a junior college or something or like a D3 and try and play basketball. And I was like but I feel like I’d be going just to play basketball. Exactly. = If I go and play basketball and study economics or whatever I don’t wanna do that. Well a lot of people go to college to find what they want to do. And a lot of people find what they want to do you know? But others I feel like if they don’t find that there then they’re kinda left like what do I like? And usually those people are interested in art or other things so that was kinda my thing. Yeah it’s different for everyone I feel like. ‘Cause I mean you moved out to L.A. When you were 19 and you became a really successful musician and that’s awesome. And I moved to L.A. when I was 18 whatever and I ended up getting this job here which has been really great and I’m really thankful but my girlfriend she has a degree in biology from Pepperdine, she’s insanely smart. And we need more people like that. But she also doesn’t know what she wants to do with that yet, she’s not sure. And she, I hate it, she always compares herself to me. She’s like well you’re so put together. And I’m one, . She’s like but you have a job, and you’re very successful. And I was like everyone’s different. It’s different though. It’s different though too with what we do– Everyone. With what we do, you never know ’cause there’s months where you’ll get a bunch of money and there’s months where you don’t get any money. Whereas you go get a job like that you have a steady income and it’s always coming in. So I think that’s the thing about just being a independent entrepreneur is it’s a risk too. Yeah to grind. There’s a lot of times where you’re gonna be down in the gutter, and there’s a lot of times you’re gonna be up so. It’s a roller coaster. If you’re out there and you’re 22-years-old and you don’t know what you wanna do that’s okay. Yeah facts. It’s okay. I can’t believe how much pressure hey put on kids. And the kids. I know. Even my little brother, he’s 21, he just turned 21, and even my mom will have conversations like yeah you need to talk to Stu, he’s not really doing much, he doesn’t know what he wants to do. I’m like yeah I’d be living with you too right now. And I didn’t know what I wanted to do. So. I think that’s the most important thing is just taking time to find what you love. And you can try different things, you can go down different routes, you can explore. While you’re young. And find the thing that makes you happy, yeah while you’re young. I know so many people who are very successful and who love what they do now but they’re like yeah I didn’t know what I wanted to do until I was 28. Fro sure. And then I found the thing that I’m at now and I love it and I’m really god at it. There’s no timeline, there’s no timeline for you to be like you have to know what you wanna do and who you wanna be by ’23 or you’re– There’s too much pressure on kids right now. It is, it’s a lot of pressure. And social media doesn’t make it easier too ’cause they’re saying people that are successful and they’re like yeah well some of those people have been putting in 10 years too, you just see what just the success right now. So. It is crazy too I feel like the era of social media, there’s just so much comparison. And everyone does it. Everyone. When you see these people on social media it’s like all you do is see the good side of people and the happy side of people. You don’t see the other. And the successful side of people and then you just compare them to you and you’re like wow I wanna be that, I wanna do that. And it’s like you don’t know what anyone’s going through or what they did to get to where they are or even how happy they are. 100%– There could be people that are extremely successful and very unhappy. It’s just about doing what you love and finding what you love. And I think that that’s something that kinda social media and this day and age of media is really warped I think. It’s just it’s made it really toxic. It has. And I feel like. Well you’re 22, so yeah we’re basically same era. It’s like we just kinda missed that I feel like. The kids that are in high school right now, that’s rough. I don’t know what I would like. I can’t imagine. I remember back when Instagram and Twitter first started be getting popular, it was kinda when I was in high school so I didn’t really hit that. But I mean– We kinda just barely, I feel like we got one foot in and one foot out. So. I couldn’t imagine growing up and being in high school right now. I feel like that would just be– Imagine social media at the peak in high school and everybody’s like some people got followers and stuff and they think they’re cooler than you and you think that they’re cooler than you and you’re like man. No. Maybe I’m not that cool. Yeah my mental health was already up enough in high school without having social media to worry about. Imagine that like. No and I mean I think it’s telling in the way just mental illness and depression is so high in younger people today. It’s– Yeah they didn’t do enough strides or anything to be like okay if we release this well we need these to help kids too you know? And it’s-_ I think that’s one thing they’re needing. Yeah I don’t wanna be like a boomer either where I’m like oh social media and your phones are rotting your brain. That’s not it, it’s a very, it’s a lot deeper than that. And the way that social media exists and the way that social media exists to try and get you to stay on it. It’s the companies and the platforms themselves that are intrinsically toxic I think in the way that they– Market and. Market and advertise to youths to try and make them feel like they have to be on it all the time to be cool and then it’s yeah.. I mean even, they say what, they say your dopamine levels rise when you get likes and stuff like that right? But it’s also brought people together too which is crazy. Without social media I couldn’t have made some of the relationships or got some of the features that I’ve got without hitting up people through social media. It’s like somebody all across the world I could get a feature with just by hitting them up on Instagram. Yeah for sure. Which is cool too so there’s a lot of perks to it too. Yeah there’s a lot of positives, some negatives too, I think that’s like most things. But. I think everything in moderation. Yeah for sure. No I mean– Except for TikTok. Except for TikTok. God. It’s funny, I talked to my dad about that ’cause I’m still friends with a lot of my closest friends from high school that I’ve known since I was in like first grade. And we game together all the time, but I mean social media has allowed us to all stayed connected all the time. And it is a really cool thing in that way where my dad is like yeah I don’t talk to any of my best friends from high school or barely at all because when we left, when we graduated and we went our separate ways. You gotta go somewhere you can’t even communicate with ’em. Yeah that was it, you went your separate ways. And then you didn’t see them unless maybe you were home visiting and you happened to bump into ’em or something. But now it’s like I have all my closest friends and I follow them on social media and I talk to them on a regular basis through it. And I can see what they’re up to and check in with them. Yeah it’s still cool. And so that’s one thing that I really like about it. You’re right, it’s positives and negatives. It’s in moderation it’s good but yeah it would be tough to be at high school right now I think. That’d be tough, That would be hard. Or middle school, even middle school. Yeah even middle school. Even maybe more so middle school. I feel like there’s even more pressure in middle school to be like cool. I feel like once I got into high school and I kinda figured out, eh it’s not really a big deal– Yes. It’s not really a big deal. Yeah middle school you’re really trying to be cool. In high school you’re like what’s cool? Every time we have a guest on Jamie does a bunch of research into people and writes down a bunch of facts. And then I get to sit here and read them and go like oh that’s cool. What fact is next? What fact is next? What fact about Sk8 is next? Well there is a video that I wanted to ask you about of you doing a stage dive. Oh yeah. What is that like? Is there fear? What if people don’t catch you? So. What if it’s like the first scene of “School of Rock” and Jack black just jumps in and everyone rhymes. Yeah yeah exactly. So here’s what you don’t see in the video is the preparation for that. So. Before. You can’t just, ’cause I’ve seen even really popping artists just try to run out and just jump in the crowd. Like bro. You’re gonna hurt someone right. Hurt. One you’re not gonna tell ’em that you’re about to do it first. You’re just gonna jump and just expect people do just. That’s what I thought you did, just from an outsider looking in. There’s nah. So it’s preparation when you’re planning a show I’ve just had a lot of tour experience to where I’ve learned how to prepare for certain things and just interact with the crowd and have crowd control. And to where if I’m doing I did three tours with Wiz. And those were big outdoors amphitheaters, 10,000 people. So I had to learn just how to control a fan base that doesn’t know me you know? And so I learned a lot of things. And the last ting was to make sure, once you get ’em there’s even things like. So I will stop in and be kinda like okay this is how this song goes. I need y’all to repeat after me, right? So when I get them to repeat that and then I play the song and everybody that’s in the back can hear everybody in the front singing that they’re just gonna ultimately sing that too. And that just put som perception in their mind that oh okay this guy people know his stuff even though they don’t. And then after that you’ve got ’em. So once you get where you got ’em then I could be like all right I’m fining to jump the crowd. But I’ll let ’em know like you y’all gonna catch me? I’ll single out a group of people, are y’all gonna catch me? Y’all don’t look like y’all are gonna catch me so I’ll go over here. And I’ll be like yo put your hands up in the air. Little survey. What’s your squat max? Yeah you know. Okay that’s gonna work. Let me know. But no if there’s enough people crowded up front all they have to do is put their hands up. Well you’ve seen the videos of people where they do the two fingers and everyone working together lifts him up. It was like a camp thing where you’re like– Oh that’s different though. Yeah it’s different but it’s kinda the same idea of a lot of people working together can lift something up but. Of course. That was such a cool video. So yeah I’ll be like yo put your hands up, put your hands up, come on I’m about to jump. And I haven’t had a bad experience yet. Good. That video’s so cool. I literally watched it 10 times, ’cause the way you’re just being held up in the crowd and then you’re still going hard, I was like that’s the coolest thing ever. Yeah it’s fun. It’s fun. That’s gonna be me at MythiCon Jamie. Oh my god. Gonna do a stage dive at MythiCon. What’s MythiCon? MythiCon’s are– You guys are having a. Yeah so we’re doing a convention. You know like Vidcon or whatever, stuff like that? So we decided to host our own that’s all mythical themes. So it’s in Austin Texas. Sick. In October for all of those of you listening. But yeah we rent to a big ranch outside of Austin for a weekend. That’s really sick. And so we’re turning it into a whole kinda mythical theme town. Might have to pop out there. Yeah you wanna come out? Com eon. Sick. Mythical fest. MythiCon tickets dot com. MythiCon fest. It’s gonna be a fun time, it’s gonna be pretty crazy. We have there’s a tattoo parlor that we have coming in so people are gonna be able– Awesome. To get tattoos and stuff. Harry Potter tattoos? Yeah beer garden. Lota beer, there’s gonna be a lotta beer. Really? Which’ll be sick. So you’re under Wiz Khalifa’s label right? Management. Management okay so his management. So is there pressure? Do you feel pressure just knowing that you’re kind of under that name to be like oh I have to live up to this? Nah not really. I had actually met Wiz before I even had got a deal with him. We got in the studio randomly through a producer named Ricky P. Okay. And he’s a producer on Taylor Gang. And we were already in the studio for I don’t know hours, it was like 3 AM. And he was like yo Wiz is gonna pull up, is that cool? And I was like is that cool? That’s cool. Yeah I mean I guess. I get ya, whatever. No yeah and growing up listening to it that era I’d seen him in concert in Omaha during the Kush and Orange Juice tour so. He pulls up at like three AM and he was we were already playing some music in there and he was like yo this is hard. And he was like can I play some beats? And I was like yeah sure. You’re like I guess. I mean I guess you put a beat on it. I guess Wiz Khalifa. And so he put a couple of beats on and I think like the second one, it was a sledger and beat and he was like yo. I was like this is hard, he’s like you like it? I’m like yeah. And he’s like all right go ahead. And I’ve heard multiple stories now after being with Taylor Gang that he’s done that multiple times. Like yo go in there. That’s like his first little like, yo go in there. Yeah little tester. Little test round. So I went in there and I lay like a verse and a hook and that was our first song. He actually dropped it on SoundCloud it’s called “Role Model”. Oh really that’s awesome. Yeah it’s cool yeah it’s called role model ’cause I was like yo this is a role model. And I’m like let me just write about what’s actually I’m experiencing right now. And so that was the first time we met. And then he kept inviting me back to the studio. So I kept going. And then Will started coming into the studio sessions randomly. And I was looking for management at the time. I had had I’d started my own record label. And did a joint venture with Atlantic Records. Okay. And then I was looking for a management and Will was like “yo if you’re looking for somebody “I would love to take you on.” And that’s kinda how we started. Okay. That’s– We got into business. That’s so cool. It was sick man yeah. That’s crazy. I mean what a story. Imagine. Dream come true yeah. Just you’re in the studio and then an idol and a legend in the industry comes by and is like hey– Yeah it was very humbling. Drop a verse. It was very humbling, it was cool man. That’s really cool. Well congratulations, I mean that’s– Yeah it was fun. That’s awesome. And then we dropped a record on the new project “Last Day on Earth”. It’s called “Girl Next Door”. It’s actually my biggest song right now. It’s doing well, it’s doing good. It’s a good song. You should listen to it. Appreciate that thank you. Yeah and Dubs is on there too. Have you heard of Dubs? Do you listen to any EDM or house music? I listen to a very little bit of EDM. Okay. So I mean they had a really really big record. I can’t remember what it’s called but it’s like that . Yeah I think I might know what you’re talking about. Yeah something like that. Maybe. I think all of ’em kina go like that though. Yeah I was gonna say I feel like I’ll hear an EDM song and then I never remember who it’s by. Same, same. Or who the– But when you re hear it you’re like oh or you look up the people you’re like though that’s who that is. I can’t just point it out. But. And be like. But yeah there was, I had already had Wiz on the song, and I played it for Dubs. And they’re like can I add some production? And I was like yeah sure. And they’re like we can add the Dubs feature on it. So it was cool to have both of those lanes on there too. And it was something that was different for Dubs too. Because it was obviously it had live rock instrumentation. And that’s why we had them. They actually used to be a band. Oh really? Used to be in a punk band yeah back in the day. Okay. So they were all for it, they were like sick. And so one of ’em was playing drums and one of ’em was playing guitar in the video. And it was cool. It was really cool just to have everybody involved in it. Kind of a whole mesh of like different yeah– Yeah and then we had summer rain in the video, we had Alex in the video who’s like sick skateboarder, one of the college Alex Middler he’s insane. So it was cool we brought a bunch of people together and it turned out dope. Yeah that’s really cool. I wanna know more about you. So this is just off the top of my head, so get ready, its probably gonna be stupid. I just wanna know, is there anything that you really like to do or your favorite things that not a lot of people know about? Do you have any just weird hobbies? Like you collect stamps. That’s a terrible example but anything in th– I like sci-fi yeah. Sci-fi and thriller and. So what are your favorite sci-fi movies then? I liked. What’s the show, I don’t know I can’t think of it it’s a Netflix show. Netflix show. Come on, come on Sk8. Oh is it “Black Mirror”? Yeah what? “Black Mirror”? How’d you just pull that outta my head. Okay so this is it’s all– Wait I think it’s. It’s on my sheet I think. It’s on the fact sheet. Oh is it? Yeah as far as TV goes really loves “Black Mirror” slash “Game of Thrones”. Hey the research is on point. ’cause it’s– She’s so good. The research is on point. The amount of times though that I’ve like we’ve had a guest on and I’ll say something and they’re like how did you know about that? Were did you find that? And Jamie’s just like, ah I do my research. You did good. Classic Jamie. Yeah “Black Mirror”s is like huge for me. “Black Mirror” freaks me out. I love it, it’s so good. It’s a good show but it freaks me out. Yeah I just like seeing that’s like okay I know where his brain went there. Have you seen the stuff about CERN? What? CERN, have you heard of CERN? I don’t think so. Yeah we might not go down that rabbit hole. CERN is something that they just. So they’re using particles and they’re shooting particles, it’s a company. Okay. And they’re shooting particles at each other. A bunch of protons, neutrons, and electrons. And to basically, they’re shooting ’em at light speed, trillions of volts. And underneath the ground. And it’s a real company, they just live streamed it on July fifth, so it was the day after Jul fourth. Okay. And there was just a bunch of people saying conspiracies and stuff saying they’re basically opening a portal. They’re trying to create the big bang theory. So they’re trying to create the big bang. ‘Cause they’re shooting all these particles together to create something that’s– That’s sick. And people are saying they’re opening portals to dark energy and stuff. No that’s good. That’s what scientists should be doing more of. Really screwed up things that have catastrophic. You feel me? And that’s what they’re saying, they’re like yo after this I don’t know there’s crazy conspiracies. More of that. If you go down the road it’s like. ‘Cause like things– Supposedly in 2012– Can’t get more screwed up right? Oh yeah no. Might as well blast the particles. Yeah we’re already doing great you know? I love this title of this article about it, it says TikTok’ers fear CERNS. Oh yeah it’s big. CERNS large hydro collateral bring about intergalactic calamity. I don’t know I just like that phrasing. It’s very. People have been watching too much “Stranger Things”. It’s deep. It’s deep. Well that’s what it is . They decided– Why would they wanna make that real? “Stranger Things” is freaky. ‘Cause they are. ‘Cause it’s sick. My thing is is like I feel like it’s like they’ve been saying oh the movies are fake and the news is real but it’s kinda the opposite. Yeah? Everything they kinda put in the movies is being kinda ends up being real. Yeah here’s the thing, if in the next 10 years something really strange happens. We’ll know to blame CERN. And a portal to another dimension gets. Yeah we’ll know to blame CERN but also that’s cool. I could do with a little spice in my life. Things are fun but they could be more fun. You’re not gonna be able to use the portal. Why not? ‘Cause CERN owns it. Well. And a bunch of rich wealthy people own it and they not gonna let you go back in time. Okay but they’re– They’re gonna go back in time. They’re gonna need to test it on someone though, that’s the whole plot of “Resident Evil” and “The Umbrella Academy” is that they test it on regular people. And then they cause the zombie outbreak. “Umbrella Academy”‘s cool too. Yeah yeah that’s a good show. I don’t know man. It’s a good show. It’s crazy. This changed directions really fast. I love it. In a good way though. What’s your favorite TV show? I love it. And now we’re talking about alternate universes. Thank you so much for coming on the show man. Thank you man I had a good time. Thank you for the conversation. It was cool man. This is so much fun. It was sick to just be able to talk about cool . Yeah please tell people where they can find you, social media, tell people what to go listen to. Obviously all of your music, but your new album stuff you’re– Cool yeah. “Last Day on Earth” is the album it just dropped featuring Wiz Khalifa, Dubs, Rook, Sueco, The Child, Good Charlotte, Sum 41. It’s out right now. S-K and then the letter or the number eight. So S-K eight, Sk8 everywhere on all platforms. So. The album is really good, I actually listened to the whole thing– Thank you brother. Through today. Loved it it was really good. I appreciate that. Thank you. So go check it out, follow Sk8 on Twitter, Instagram, all that stuff. Keep up with what he’s doing. You’re a super cool guy. At least I think so. For now. Thank you. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you brother. Thank you. Well everyone that was Sk8. Please go check out his album “Last Day on Earth”, it’s really good. It’s got a really cool blend of a ton of different genres. They’re genuinely think there’s something for everybody in there. I was listening to it today, really enjoyed it. Go check him out, Instagram, Twitter. S-K eight the number, S the letters S-K followed by the number eight. Sk8. As in Avril Lavigne’s “Sk8r Boi”. Love that song. Yeah great song, but that’s skate in the same way that it’s spelled in the song title. Jamie how was it? Did you enjoy our conversation? I did. I really liked when you got into the growing up into growing up with this social media you guys were like on the cusp. Because I felt like I, ’cause I’m a little bit older, so I felt like I was really kind of on the cusp. The most, I didn’t have a smart phone or Instagram til I graduated high school. Okay yeah. So I was like I always think about that, I’m like what are kids today doing? So I thought that was so interesting. And the conspiracy theories, ’cause I just a sucker for those. I think I got my first phone when I was eight freshman or sophomore in high school. And my first phone was a smart phone, I didn’t have a flip phone or anything before that. But it was around when I first got my drivers license or my learners– You didn’t have a flip phone? No I didn’t have a flip phone. Oh man. My first phone was the iPhone 5C. But it was like when I got my drivers license and I was gonna be out of the house more and my parents wanted to be able to contact me and stuff. And so it probably was around summer after my freshman year or during my sophomore year. And yeah I mean I remember having those at early days of Instagram and Twitter. And back then it was just kind of a silly joke thing. There wasn’t a lot of stock in it. I had a Facebook but I never used it. I mean yeah growing up today in that era where I feel like people put so much stock in your social media and how many followers you have, how many likes you get, and like that. Oh I couldn’t handle it. I can barely handle it now and I’m an adult and I shouldn’t care. Well ’cause– And I don’t really care but it’s yeah. Well ’cause imagine being in middle school and if there’s bullies normally the bullies stop once you go home. But now they can reach you wherever you– Cyber bullying. Cyber bullying. I believe is what that’s referred to as. Yeah. But no I thought it was really cool. And he was a cool dude. He was, he was really nice. He was really fun to talk to, it was a good time, I enjoyed it. All right everybody it’s time for a new little segment that we’re gonna be doing here. Because I found that I have a lot of knowledge. I’m a very smart person, I’m kind of a genius honestly. I don’t know what my IQ is but it’s probably genius level of intellect. And I have a lot of very great advice. So I’m gonna start giving you guys some tips. This is Trevor’s tips. That’s right, alliteration. That’s what alliteration, it’s when words that are consecutive in a sentence have the same letter at the stat of it or the same sound. Okay that’s how smart I am, I know what alliteration is. And today’s tip from Trevor, me, actually is a useful tip shockingly. Oh man. I know. It’s a useful tip, I know, get ready for this Jamie. If you ever start a fire in a pan in your kitchen that is what’s known as an oil fire. So when you heat up oil really hot sometimes it will catch fire. And if you do that while you’re cooking don’t put it in the sink and put water on it because all that’s gonna do is make it worse, the fire’s gonna flare up. It’s actually crazy how often I see clips of this happen on YouTube and social media that someone will be in their kitchen cooking and oh the pan catches on fire and they just run it to the sink and then they put the sink on and it just gets bigger. If you start a fire in a pan in your kitchen while you’re cooking, this is a genuine tip, turn off the heat, take it off of heat. So if it’s on a burner turn off that burner, put the pan on a different burner that’s not on, and then cover it. Because the oxygen, fire needs oxygen, so an oil fire if you just cover it with something like a pot lid or something it’s gonna eat itself up. The fire will go out because there’s no oxygen to fuel it and you don’t put it in the sink and the fire will go down and you can throw out. Who knows, maybe the food’s still good. You can still eat it maybe, I don’t know, that’s for you to assess once you’ve done it. Don’t put kitchen oil fires in the sink. If you start a fire in a pan don’t put it in the sink. That’s Trevor’s tip for today and it’s good. It is a good tip. You can– Thank you. Then you can pretend if it’s not too big of a fire that you were just trying to flambé something. Exactly. You can Gordon Ramsay it. Give it a yeah. Actually that’s the tip if you start a fire in a pan just start shaking the pan around like they do in the cooking shows or when you see a B roll of a restaurant. Just start flipping it around and then it’s gonna look cool as . And then you might burn your house down but at least you’ll look cool. I was gonna say this tip kind of. No the tip went off the rails, listen to the first part not the second part. Thank you everyone for listening to “Trevor Talks Too Much”. We’ve got new episodes out every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts. We get the video versions coming out the following Monday over on YouTube dot com slash Trevor Talks Too Much. But yeah go follow the socials, catch me, catch the mythical stuff, Mythical Kitchen, go check out mythical pods on TikTok, we got some fun clips going up over there. I believe that’s all the things that I have to say contractually. No I’m kidding, it’s not contractually, I just say it because I like it. But yeah have a great day everyone. Go don’t start any fires in your kitchen ideally. Don’t do it. Hey if you thin that this podcast is funny boy do I have another podcast that you’d probably also think is funny, it’s called “Best Friends Back Alright”. 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