You know, there’s that statement, “Hurt people hurt people.” So it’s like, whenever you encounter those situations, you have to consider like, that person wasn’t in a good place, they hurt me, but it’s not like they were in a great successful place, like they were hurting. Welcome, to Trevor Talks Too Much. The show where the conversation flows, and where it goes, who knows? I sure don’t. I’m your host Trevor Evarts, master baker, mythical soft boy, and collector of various trinkets and bobbles. You should see my room. The amount of trinkets in bobbles I’ve got in there, unreal. Really? Why are you laughing at me? I wanna know what the trinkets and bobbles are. No, they’re mine. Today I spoke with Chrish. Today I spoke with Chrish, you probably have heard of him. He’s very big on Vine for “Patrish…” I don’t know why I did that voice, “Patricia.” He yells Patricia in one of the videos, it’s funny. But yeah, he’s just a professional, funny dude. He makes content still on TikTok, whatnot, he streams. But yeah, I don’t know, he’s just a funny guy, what’s wrong with having a funny guy on the show? And he was funny, we talked about all sorts of stuff. We talked about, what did we talk about? We talked about confidence, and how neither of us have it. We talked about the rage that some video games, certain video games induce in us. And we talked about not holding on resentment, which was fun ’cause I’ve got a lot of resentment, and I hold on to it, specifically… Wait… I don’t know, I just feel like it’s gonna be… No, I was, God dang it, I had a resentment that I was gonna talk about, and it was dumb. And you just let it go? And I just let it go apparently. No I didn’t. No okay. Popeyes Fried Chicken. Wait. Popeyes Fried Chicken. I’m an avid Popeyes fan. I eat a lot of Popeyes chicken. Chicken sandwich, phenomenal. Chicken legs, drum, and thigh, all that phenomenal. Chicken tenders, phenomenal. Sides, phenomenal. I had one of the worst Popeyes experiences I have ever had in my life this past weekend. What? I got the freaking like chicken nuggets, okay? The like little chicken nuggies from Popeyes. And here I am thinking, they’ve got great tenders, they’ve got great other fried chicken, assorted things. Great chicken sandwich. For whatever reason, the little chicken nuggets were so bad. It was like whatever breading or seasoned flour that they used to fry their chicken, they just use a terrible version of it. That or the fryer oil was old, or that they were fried too long. I don’t know what it was. I think it might have been one of the latter things, ’cause as what I… I almost called myself a professional chef, “proshessional fesh.” “I almost called myself a proshessional fesh.” You wouldn’t consider yourself somewhat of a… No, hell no. But as someone who cooks for a living, I guess. I definitely know the flavor of when something has been fried too long, or it’s been fried in old fryer oil. And it definitely had that quality. But I’m scared to try them again, because it was so bad I didn’t even finish ’em. And like when you’re getting nuggets you get like six to 10 maybe. Yeah, I think it was like an eight piecer. I didn’t even finish the dang nuggies. That’s pretty bad. I finished my large mash taters and gravy though, ’cause that phenomenal. But literally the nuggets, I couldn’t finish them because they were that bad. No matter how much barbecue sauce or ranch I smothered them in, they were so bad. They’re still sitting in my room as we speak. I haven’t had the heart to touch them yet and throw them out because they’re that bad. And was it the same Popeye, like your typical Popeyes you go to. It’s the typical Popeyes, never had a bad experience at this Popeyes, not once, and for whatever reason these nuggets… And I wanna, as a man of science, I wanna go get ’em again. Because I feel like I have to. But I’m also worried that if I go get ’em again and they’re the same thing, then I’ve wasted money. And I’m scared, I’m scared. So that’s the resentment I’m holding on to in my heart right now, I won’t be able to let it go until I get an answer. Well let’s just give that Popeyes, since you’ve had good experiences there. No! Maybe just don’t order the nuggets, maybe the nuggets are just not– I don’t think it’s worth it, I don’t think it’s even worth it to try again. Yeah. I can get the tendies, or I can get the chicken sando, I can get my large red beans and rice, or my large mashed taters and gravy, and I can be happy. Gonna end on a controversial note here, the KFC chicken sandwich is actually, I think, better than the Popeyes sandwich. Wow, it’s funny that you say that because I’ve had both side by side, and I actually might agree with you. I thought you were gonna rip me a new one. No, no. KFC chicken sandwich is like, I remember the first time I had it, I was like, this is really, really good. Let’s get in to Chrish. Chrish. Hey Chrish. Hey. Hey Chrish. Hey. Okay, I’m sorry, because you go by Chrish because your full name is Christian. How did you know that? Oh wait. Because I know how to use the internet. It’s so hard for me to not do a Herbert the pervert voice. “Hey Chrish” Oh yeah, the family guy. Yeah I don’t know how to do that. Anyway, I didn’t even introduce you. Everyone this is Chrish, very famous Vine star. Probably top three funniest people ever on Vine. That’s where you gained a lot of your popularity, yes. And now you do other things. Yeah. I mean, you know, I’m on those apps, I’m on the TikToks, and the Instagrams, and the Twitters. I’m on two of those, I don’t go on TikTok. Somehow I’ve held out. I just can’t, ’cause I know all my friends are on it, they say it’s terrible, I sit there and I scroll for hours. Oh yeah. And I just can’t do it. You’ll get like those automated videos that are like, “You’ve been scrolling for a little bit too long, are you okay?” They’re like, “Do you need to talk about it?” “What if we took a break?” I wonder if that’s a legal thing that they have to do ’cause why, as a platform, would you be encouraging people to get off? I know. Is it like a legal thing that if someone’s on your app for more than a few hours, then you have to like tell them to take a break? Maybe it’s like science, maybe it’s like, you know, when you tell somebody to not do something and that makes them wanna do it more. It’s like, “Screw you I’m gonna keep scrolling.” Well they had that old thing in Disney Channel back in the day. Do you remember when they took like the summer… Do you not remember that? You’re looking at me… There was literally, on Disney Channel, there was a day, maybe it wasn’t Disney Channel, maybe it was one of the other like Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network. But they took a day where they just didn’t air shows and they were like, “Go outside day.” Yes I do remember that. Oh so it was like get out and play, or something. They’re like touch some grass. Literally stop watching the The Suite Life of Zack & Cody and go touch grass. “I’m addicted.” The show isn’t that good. Yeah, it wasn’t my favorite. That was always so funny to me because then I just swapped to Nickelodeon. Literally. Also, as a kid, I was going outside plenty, they should do that now. Because that’s before all the smartphones and everything. Yeah, they should do that now where they’re like, “We’re gonna not let you play video games for a day. We’re just gonna cut off your internet access ’cause you need to touch grass.” ‘Cause I do need to touch grass. It’s like a severe problem at this point. Right. But welcome to the show. Thanks. This is the show. Hi show. I hope you’ve been enjoying yourself so far. I’ve been living, laughing, and loving. Living, laughing, and loving? Why couldn’t the sign say that? Instead of Trevor Talks Too Much, it I should just say live, laugh, love. Oh that’s good. I should just get another one to put right underneath it. I’ll buy it from Ross Dress For Less. Wait, this is actually actually a really funny story. I think I have at least one of these articles of clothing is from Ross Dress For Less, I don’t know which one. I love Ross. I do too. When we first started the Mythical Kitchen channel, where I cook over there, I remember like, we had designed the set and everything, but I had to go to Hobby Lobby for something, and I was looking through all the really weird signs that they have there are. Aren’t they really like conservative, like Christian oriented. Yeah. Conservative, Christian, southern mom signs. Like cooking in the kitchen with Jesus, and stuff like that. And I started buying those signs, and then putting them up in the kitchen, like up on top of the cabinets where you couldn’t really see them. Hallelujah. And it made our director Ben so mad. He kept forcing me to get up there and take them down, and then I would put ’em back up after we were done shooting, and I just remember buying these like $10 signs, and putting ’em up all over the kitchen, and then I stopped. Probably wasn’t a good use of company money. Like this is vandalism. Probably shouldn’t have been putting those on the company card, but what are you gonna do? So you were big on Vine, how do you think that that’s affected your mental health through the years? Good question. I feel like my mental health, it’s a little rollercoaster. It’s like wee, you know, highs and lows. It’s a great question. It was kind of a joke, but if you’d like to elaborate. I know, I kind of want to, ’cause I feel like, some people were like weird to me on Vine, like other creators and stuff, and I feel like that has affected how I make relationships with like other influencers and other people on the internet to this day it’s kind of still affected me. I don’t know, I think the constant pressure to put out content and stuff definitely gets mentally exhausting and stuff like that. But I feel like anybody who puts out content regularly definitely feels that way, you know? I was gonna say, every person that I have on the show, we have this conversation of like, “God, this is exhausting, isn’t it?” The pressure to always have new stuff going on. I applaud people that can always consistently do it, ’cause I just can’t, I’ll like fall off the face of the earth for a few months and then I’ll come back and I’m like, “Hey.” “Hey, how’re you doing, hey!” “It’s me!” “I’m back.” I mean, if I didn’t have like a nine to five job, because I made content, but it’s– Are they hiring? It’s under the parameters of like a nine to five. So it definitely helps me, ’cause if I had to do this like by myself, and like create my own schedule and release my own stuff, it would never happen. Maybe that’s why I’m doing so poorly, I’m just kidding. Do you want me to talk to Rhett and Link? See if I they get you on the payroll. Hire the kid. Hey, I’ll clean the floors. I got the bathroom. I don’t know that we have someone that cleans the floors, ’cause the floors in the kitchen are disgusting. Yeah, I don’t know how to clean floors, but I’ll pretend that I knew, you know. Only professionally, you know. Yeah, no. I think you could do okay, I think anything– I hope I can clean a floor. I think anything better than zero would be a win for us at this point. ‘Cause you like put your finger on the floor, or like if something falls on the floor and we have to like wipe it up with a paper towel, you take one swipe of a wet paper towel on our floor and it’s just black, just grime, just a layer. You can’t see the white of the paper towel anymore. It’s pretty rough. So you’re from Tennessee originally? Tennessee, yeah. Tennessee, down in the south. I’m actually from the birthplace of Dolly Parton. Where was Dolly Parton birthed? Sevierville, Tennessee. And that’s where Dollywood is. That’s where Dollywood– And our main street is Dolly Parton Parkway, in Sevierville, Tennessee. Sever ville? Sevierville. Sevierville! It’s Sevierville. I was like cervical, what? Cervical City. Dolly Parton. So what is it like growing up knowing that you’ll never achieve the fame of Dolly Parton? What are you talking about? You’ll never be the most famous person from the town that you grew up in. Makes me sick to my stomach. That’s a good question. I wasn’t expecting to answer that. That was such a mean question. Well, we go like way back, you know, she’s helped me a lot in my career and like… No, actually I’m just kidding. Have you met Dolly personally. So like, she’s always at all these different events like every other month, or at least she used to be, I don’t know, not every other month. But she would at least like two or three times a year there would be like some event in Sevierville where you had the chance to go, and I never went to any of those events, ’cause I’m like, “I’ll go, I’ll make the next one.” And then I moved away from Sevierville. What the frick, you could have like, like grabbed at her cowboy boots and gotten a fleck of the talent. Like those people did with Jesus when they would grab his robe to like see if it would heal them, you know? Dolly Parton is the Sevierville version of Jesus. Yeah. Definitely. So like in 2016 there was like wildfires in Gatlinburg, and it took away like dozens of people’s houses, and a couple of people died, it was like a whole thing. But she, like every month for like 10 months, or six months or something, she like gave each person like a thousand dollars, or each household a certain amount of dollars, I don’t know, it was a good whatever, to get by. And then at the end of the month, each household got like $10,000, and that was to help with the fires. And she’s done like so many things since then. So Dolly Parton is Jesus. No, yeah, she’s just like really… That’s awesome, that’s huge. And honestly, being from there, I didn’t realize how big she was. I was like, “Oh, she’s just a country artist, whatever.” And then I leave Sevierville and it’s like, oh, she’s like one of the biggest country artists of all time, and artists in general, like of all time. I’m like whoa. She’s huge. So you, hold on, I’m gonna go take a couple steps back here, ’cause you talked about, I mentioned Vine and you said there was some drama with creators. When Vine was out, I was, I don’t know, I feel like I was in junior high or like maybe freshman year of high school when Vine was really popular, I don’t even wanna talk about the Vines that I made, ’cause they were awful. I bet they were so good. They were so bad. The Pokemon one was top tier. Shut up. I’m gonna do my research. You do research, I’m gonna, after this one. You will not find it. I’ll send you the clip. Jamie, stop it’s so bad. I like that. So there was Vine drama? Not like, I don’t know, it’s just like one particular influencer that was like from around the same area, was just like kind of weird and rude. Are you not naming names intentionally? Yeah. Yeah, I can’t. No that’s fair I get it. I shouldn’t even be mentioning it on this because it happened so long ago. But sometimes it affects my subconscious. I think I need therapy. Yeah, I just started going to therapy, pretty big. Yeah, I could definitely use that. It’s worth a shot. And I’ve definitely heard like a bunch of other drama between other people, like, you know, the Lele Pons, Amanda, somebody. Amanda, it definitely starts with a ‘s’. Gleeble. Gleeble. Gleeble Glableson. I don’t know, there was just… I mean there’s just like people, it was like the first time a short form video app came into play where. I think everybody’s just trying to figure it out and learn. Amanda Cerney? Yeah, that’s it. Yeah, I’ll go and like– So much drama. Viners, it’s so weird ’cause I remember– Sorry, they felt entitled too. Yeah. There’s so many Viners that like, I’ll see content that they put out today. It’s like, wow, this really only worked in this seven second video format. That’s definitely true. When they all started trying to do sketch comedy, like minute long videos on Instagram sketch comedy. It’s like, ah. It turns out the longer it goes, the worse it gets. It’s like a period that like almost feels like a blur, ’cause I was in college when I was doing the whole thing too. And I don’t know, part of me have regrets of like, not doing my… Moving to LA sooner, during my Vine period. But I don’t know, I think it all kind of worked out. ‘Cause then I was just like, I went through a period of like, I need a break from the internet kind of period, where I took a year break, and then I realized, oh I kind of miss like, you know, having this as my career. And so I started posting again. Then, my Instagram and Twitter started doing well, and then I went over the TikTok and that started doing well as well. Honestly, TikTok, it’s so easy to go viral on. Especially if people know you from something else. Like I have to, it’s the bare minimum have to do and people are like, “That was Chrish from Vine, that was the Patricia Guy. Oh my God.” Okay, so my coworker Nicole, who is just a darling dear, I told her that you were coming on the show ’cause she was like, “Oh who’s your guest today?” And she was like, “The Patricia Guy?” Also she wants to hang out with you. Wait who, I’ll hang out. Look, I need friends, what? Yeah, I’ll let her know. I can set you guys up. Tonight we’re gonna go out, yeah. Yeah, not tonight. I got plans to like sit inside and not go outside. It’s way too hot to to talk to another human right now. Do you think there’s ever gonna be another platform like Vine? ‘Cause I know TikTok is kind of like, everybody calls it the Vine replacement. After TikTok I don’t think so, there’s just no way that it’s gonna be as big, ’cause like TikTok is like the better version of Vine. Yeah. Like Vine has all those nostalgic things and everything. But like, TikTok’s like better. Yeah. Vine was crazy ’cause like, you had to be funny. You only had seven seconds. It’s hard to be funny in seven seconds. As someone who’s been unfunny a lot of times in my life in seven seconds. I’ve never not been funny, so I don’t know what that sentiment is. Oh no, yeah, my bad. Talking to professional funny guy over here. Professional funny guy. That’s me. And it’s funny ’cause I feel like short form content is getting longer too. It’s so bizarre how it’s like, everybody for the longest time thought like 10 minute YouTube videos, that was it, that was the money, ’cause you get the two midroll ads, and that’s like the money zone. And then everybody’s like, now we got TikTok. And TikTok is like 60 seconds, even on Reels on Instagram. Didn’t when reels first came out, it was only like 15 or 30 seconds. How long can you make a Reel now? Now Reels and TikTok are like three minutes each I think you can make now. Who’s trying to watch a three minute Reel? That’s what I’m saying, it’s like we’re coming full circle. Like eventually you’re gonna be like five minute TikToks, and then you’re gonna be like, you can make ’em as long as you want, have a 40 minute TikTok. And then we’re right back to YouTube. Everything comes full circle. I’ve tried everything but YouTube, I don’t know why. The great thing about YouTube is that it sucked. No, not actually. I love that. It sucks, great thing. Yeah, write that down, write that down. No, actually I’ve never made a YouTube video personally other than for like a class project. But from what I’ve heard, it’s like… ‘Cause you, you just started streaming recently? Yeah, like last year. And then I streamed for like a few months and then I got broken up with, well, yeah, basically I got broken up with. And I got depressed and then I moved and I spent like months not doing it. And then I started back again like in May. So I’m still kind of newish. So I feel like I haven’t like streamed for like a year consistently. Yeah, from what I’ve heard a lot of people like, unless you have like a team, then it’s really hard to do both Twitch and YouTube. Unless you have someone that’s like editing and helping you with videos. That makes sense. Because it’s just so much work. But Nadeshot, recently there was some drama. Do you know who Nadeshot is? I don’t know what anybody is, I suck. No, that’s okay, he’s the CEO and founder of 100 Thieves. Yeah, okay. He’s like a former COD pro. He was going on this rant, it was really funny. I played Apex and I follow some of the people who are signed to a 100 Thieves. Yeah, Apex is fun. Do you play? Occasionally. I’ll like go in spurts. It’s really sweaty. Yeah, it really is. And it’s a hard game. Because it’s not similar to anything that I play. I play a lot of like Valorant and League, and so Apex is always like a big switch. But I haven’t played a ton of it. Are there any other games you like to stream? So like the game that I’m truly, truly sweaty in is NBA 2K. Yeah, it’s so random. I have been obsessed with like NBA basketball like since I was like a little kid, for whatever reason. That’s why I was like, wanna play 21 outside, you know? I’ll play 21. Yeah, come one. We’ll do it, can we take one of these cameras outside Jamie? Couple mics too. I already got a separate camera ready for you. I got a ball. You wanna go to LA Fitness after this? Learn some pick up games? I’m into it, I could use the workout. Definitely use the workout. But I’m pretty good at NBA 2K, can’t even lie. But I don’t know, the player base there is honestly so homophobic and just so weird. And it’s just like, they’re just so dumb and ignorant that I had to take a break. And honestly like, I’m really good at the game, so when I lose I take it personally, and I’m like, you know. So people will troll me and they’ll be like, “We wanna see a play 2K” Even though they, they don’t want me, they don’t care about the gameplay, they just wanna see me like rage basically. Is that the game that gets you the most mad, is 2K? Probably, but recently I’ve been playing Fall Guys too, and that makes me madder than hell. Fall guys, it’s crazy how a game that’s that cute, makes me so mad. Like it’s just these little bean guys running around just doing silly little activities, but God is it infuriating. I’m thinking about it right now and I’m getting pissed. I’m mad, I’m thinking about that freaking crown that I didn’t get a month ago, that I’m like, ugh. It’s been like a couple weeks since I played. I was streaming it like the other week or whatever, and there was this one level that I still can’t get past. Is it slime climb? Yeah, I think it is, it is. Don’t talk to me about slime climb. And I was at the end . Don’t even talk to me about slime climb because that’s the most infuriating game mode, I don’t think I’ve ever completed a slime climb. It makes me so mad. I got to the end and I’m getting gate kept by the people. By the lovely other players. Literally the one time that I got close to finishing a slime climb, some dude grabbed me and he pushed me into the big yeetus, that’s what they call the hammer. Yeah, the swinging thing. The hammer that swings, and he pushed me into the big yeetus. That’s how I felt. I instantly closed app, I said, “All right Apex, I’m not doing this, I’m not doing this. I’m not gonna let this affect my mental right now, I just got on stream, we’re not gonna do this.” I was having a good day before Fall Guys. Before the slime climb. And that’s why I think I need therapy. If a game like Fall Guys can just make me that mad. That’s when we have to get kind of introspective and be like, what’s actually going on here? What’s really going on? What’s really happening? So I have a question, because I feel like there’s a lot of, one, with how popular TikTok is and Instagram Reels and even YouTube shorts and stuff, I feel like there’s a lot of people that start that very young, you know, where they’re like 14, 15 and they start making videos and they get a couple to go viral, and now they have this like kind of platform. But I feel like there’s not a very direct streamline into making that a career. And some people did it, but some people don’t. But I guess I just wanted to ask, is there like a career path that you thought you would’ve been on, or even maybe that you had wished you had pursued more other than content creation or video creation? Definitely, like I sing. And I still wanna make music eventually. But yeah, I don’t know why I haven’t. Like it’s been so many years, and I’m still like… I got into the studio like last month for the first time in a minute, I laid a little background vocals on my friend’s song. Met a couple producers, yeah. Bumping elbows. Right, come on. Definitely music and stuff. I feel like I don’t know why it’s been so long since I haven’t pursued it. And also YouTube, there’s just so many things. I’m like, why aren’t you doing these things? Like I’m, I don’t know. I get it. I mean like, even for me like streaming on Twitch, I play video games like every night, I sit in my room and I play video games. Do you stream a lot? No, I never do, I wish I did. But it’s just like, there’s some mental block that I just can’t get over, where it’s like, I take it too seriously. They’re gonna hate you on there, no I’m just kidding. Or like, I won’t be good enough, or like… Or even it’s not a job for me. Like streaming isn’t a job, but I treat it like a job. So like, I’ll get really in my head for no reason about like, numbers, like, oh I didn’t get a ton of viewers this stream, it’s like this isn’t your job, you do this like once a month. It’s like a little side hustle for me currently, and so I try not to like get in my head about it. That’s what I need, I need a little side hus right now. It might be time for the Trevor return to Twitch. I’m ready for it, I’ll follow, I’ll sub. I got some medical bills, couple of trips to the ER, they’ll set you back a few bones. I am a hypochondriac, so I think I like five things are wrong with me at all times. And they consume my mind, it’s horrible. I’ve been telling all of my loved ones that if I ever seem like I’m about to die, don’t call an ambulance. Like if I pass out on the floor, leave me there. If I don’t get through it, that’s on me, I wasn’t strong enough. Listen, here’s the thing, our ancient ancestors, the cavemen, they didn’t have ambulances, they didn’t have hospitals, they just die. If it was their time to go, it’s their time to go. Like I think that’s actually, you know that weird like church of Jesus Christ scientist– I’m a part of it, no I’m just kidding. Yeah I was just there. Just got done with the Tuesday afternoon sermon. I love them, no. They don’t believe in like, modern medicine. My mom’s friends, like, she doesn’t have health insurance, and she’s like, God’s got me. Okay so she’s a weirdo. They like don’t believe in like– Sorry Leonor, what? They’ll like let let their kids die, because they’re like, “Oh, through the power of prayer we can heal.” And I’m like, don’t you think that maybe if you believe in a God, and you believe in a God that answers prayers, don’t you think that maybe the answer to the prayer was modern medicine? Yeah. If there’s a treatable disease, like maybe God’s way of answering the prayer was giving you medical professionals that are really smart, and can heal your child. Anyway, I think that the reason actually that they don’t go to the hospital, ’cause too damn expensive, okay. And they can’t be bothered with medical bills. Which I kinda respect that. I’m so scared of medical bills. ‘Cause he last two– One time I got an STD checkup and I got like a bill in the mail, it was like $200. And I was like, what? Literally. Look, it’s hard. The healthcare infrastructure in America is seriously flawed, even for people with insurance. Like I have health insurance, a good health insurance, and I still got like to pay two grand because I passed out from heat exhaustion in the Boise Airport and had to go to the hospital. Boise, Idaho? Yes. Do you like Boise, Idaho? Like have you been there? I’ve always wanted to go there. I’ve seen like pictures of it, and it looks like somebody painted it. Guess what? What’s up? I’m from there. I know, I’m from Boise, Idaho. Tell me something all about it. Okay so, it’s actually called Boise because the word boi comes from the French word for tree. You’re my boi. It’s the city of trees. And you might think when you go to Boise and you’re like, oh, there’s not that many trees here. But think about those people that are on the Oregon Trail, and they’ve been walking through nothing. Just flat, Nebraska, Wyoming, South Dakota. Yeah, ’cause there it’s mountainous, right? Yeah, it’s mountainous. But like all of a sudden you pop into the Treasure Valley and you see this lush valley, and they’re like, this is the promised land. I wanna go there. This is the promised land. Uh no, it’s really great. So you lived in Nebraska for a while, right? Yes, oh my God, you know so much about me. Are you flirting with me? Yeah, sorry. Maybe, I flirt with most of my guests. I feel like it makes the, you know, a little more comfortable. Yeah, or awkward, but yeah. Do you feel awkward now? Yeah, I’m like really uncomfortable. No, I’m chilling. No, no, no, no, no, I’m chilling. I’m just kidding. Yeah, I lived in Nebraska. Why’d you move from Tennessee to Nebraska? So like, after like college, like, I said like so many times. Uh no. I like moved back with my parents for a year, and then I was like, I’m just done with it, I couldn’t handle it. I was like 24, and 23, and horny at my parents’ house. And I was like, I don’t know man, I don’t know. It’s hard being horny at your parents’ house, I tell you what. I’m telling you. Not a situation you wanna be in. Definitely not. And then my sister, she like studied… She like got into grad school there. And I was like, well I’ll just move with you. Let’s get a place. I was like, you’re moving to Nebraska, and I love my sister, we’re like best friends. So I like moved there and then, eight months, I was there for like eight months, and then I moved to LA after that. Nice, just a little pit stop. Yeah kind of. Quality time. I knew as soon as I moved to Nebraska, I was like, I’m not trying to actually be here, like, I’m lowkey trying to move to LA, but, let me save up and do in Nebraska. That makes sense, good financial planning there because LA is very expensive. And I was like, I’m gonna go away from like everybody. Well if there’s one place that’s away from everybody, it’s Nebraska. Oh I’m telling you, no literally. I have not in now four years of living here, I have not been to the Griffith Observatory, or the Hollywood Center. Really yeah, I live really close to the Griffith Observatory, so. Do you live in the Griffith Observatory? I’m right there. Right inside it. If you knock on the front door here I am. I’m in the walls. Oh God no. Yeah, I’m in Glendale, so basically. Nice, I love Glendale, that’s the LA Fitness I go to. Oh really? I have my gym there that I pay $54 a month every month, and I haven’t been since March. Wait what do you– Gold’s gym. Nice, yeah. I got a friend that goes to Gold’s, Shane. Oh yeah. Shane. Shane goes to Gold’s. ‘Cause I was talking to him about it, and I was like, “Hey what gym do you go to?” He’s like, “Gold’s” And I was like, “Well I’m not gonna go there, ’cause they don’t have a basketball court.” I know, that’s one thing I do wish they freaking had is a basketball court. I mean it’s been a minute, I do kind like to shoot it around. Yeah, literally just recently started getting back into playing consistently and it’s been so much fun. Even though some people at the Local Access Fitness can be a little bit mean sometimes. Take it a little too seriously. Are you talking about like at like LA Fitness? Yeah. Oh really? Did you know that LA Fitness doesn’t stand for Los Angeles Fitness? What does it stand for? Local Access Fitness. Wow. I found that out when I signed up, pretty misleading. That’s one of the more useless facts I know. What’s the most useless fact that you know? That’s a good question. Do you have any useless facts that come to mind? I got some fun hippopotamus facts. I’m ready for it, ’cause I don’t know if I have anything, I’m not gonna lie. Okay. Hippopotamuses don’t actually swim. Really? They don’t swim. So hippopotamuses, they’re large, but they’re so muscle dense. So all of the big, like you see a hippopotamus it’s big, it’s all very dense muscle. So when they go into a lake, or a pond, or a river, they just sink down to the bottom, and they kind of glide along the bottom. Kinda like a little lazy river, except for stagnant. Yeah, but then they’re freaky, ’cause they can run like 25 miles per hour under water. That’s scary. So like Jamie look up hippo chasing boat, it’ll be like the first thing. Look at this nonsense. So they like, you see ’em go down and then they jump up, like ’cause they’re just like… Look at it it’s so freaky, look at how fast it’s going. How is it propelling itself? It literally, look at it. Wow, oh they’re cute. Like you can see, they just sink and they’re just walking along. But then they just glide under water, like they’re not actually– Oh, he got kicked. He just kicked him in the head. Hippos are scary. I would not frick with a hippo, I wouldn’t frick around with a hippo. No, they are kind of scary. They got those gigantic jaws, you seen a hippo eat a watermelon? Jamie! No I’m kidding. I have, yeah. I think my weird fact, oh I don’t know. The smokey mountains, which is like the mountain range where I live, they have like the largest diversity of like amphibians, I think particularly salamanders. That’s a useless fact, but very cool. That’s pretty useless. That’s all I got for you though. Last time I brought up the hippo fact, I think I was at a party, and I argued with someone for like 10 minutes about whether or not what we just saw was considered swimming. Did you guys physically fight? Yeah, oh yeah. I bet you beat the hell outta him. Oh yeah, I’m a pretty formidable foe. I’m scared right now. As you can tell. How tall are you? I’m six foot four, last checked by a medical professional. Some people were like, there’s no way you’re like six foot two, six foot three. I’m like, yeah, I kind of am. And like I like stand next to a door, they’re like, I still don’t see it. I’m like, it’s just cause I’m fat, that’s the only way, that’s the only reason why you don’t think I’m that tall. As a tall person that people don’t really believe is tall. Do you believe that there’s something to be said about having like taller energy? I have five foot eight energy. See that’s what I’m saying, ’cause I say that to people. I think that’s what it is too. I’m like, I’m tall but I don’t have tall energy so people don’t think I’m tall, and they’re like what does that even mean? What is tall energy? And I’m like, you know some people just have a bigger presence, like a bigger personality, and like a taller, like they seem imposing sometimes, that kind of confident tall energy. Yeah, I don’t think I’m confident. I think I have a big personality but I don’t know if I’m like extremely confident. Yeah, no, and I’m not either. And I tend to be pretty sheepish, and so I come across as not that tall, but then people are like, Oh my god, you’re so tall. So confidence, I guess that would make sense that confidence would play a big part in the tall energy. Have you always kind of struggled with confidence? I mean. Or was it something that like being on the internet escalated? I think I might have always struggled with confidence and maybe being on the internet has allowed me to express myself fully. ‘Cause my parents, they never have truly accepted my gay lifestyle. My gay lifestyle. The fact that the phrasing gay lifestyle just got used by an actual gay person is hilarious to me. ‘Cause that is like the most straight white southern mom, “Oh, is that a part of your gay lifestyle?” You can tell I still have conditioning for me. Yeah, I don’t know. I feel like between that and them never appreciating the fact that I was just an icon living. You know, both of those, yeah right. So like both of those things just like really got to me. No, I don’t know I think sometimes being on the internet can sway you from your confidence. But I’ve been doing it for so long that the negative comments and stuff… I saw somebody that, they said something that was like, that really spoke out to me, and I will never forget it and I like live by it. They’re like don’t freak out too much about the positive comments, because you’re gonna hold the same weight in the negative comments. So even if people are saying a bunch of nice stuff to you, like take that and like appreciate it, but like don’t internalize it. You have to know who you are outside of what you do on the internet and stuff like that, so that when the negative stuff comes rolling around, you won’t value that either, you know what I mean? I don’t know if I made sense. No, that makes a lot of sense, I’ve never thought about it that way before. And that’s helped me. Like any negative comment from this day, I’m like. I was gonna say something but I… Do you feel like you use almost like overconfidence or arrogance to kind of mask insecurities? Are you my therapist? I can be, let’s do it. I think so, definitely to an extent because I exude such a positive like, well I dunno about positive, but like confident, in your face energy. But like IRL me is a little bit more reserved, and unsure about some things. But I think the older I get, the less I care about people’s perceptions of me and stuff. Like I’m 29, what am I gonna do caring about somebody on the internet saying something about me. Some teen on TikTok. Yeah, or even somebody in real life saying some dumb that I don’t even care about. I’m like, I’m better than you. One of my friends who’s like pretty successful is like, sometimes you just have to get in the mindset that you’re better than everybody else, even if you’re not, even if deep down you know that you’re not, but like to lift yourself out of like the darkness, you have to be like, I’m better than everybody, you know? Do you feel like there is some merit in that kind of like fake it till you make it type of way to manage insecurities. If you just like lie to yourself– Look at half the influencers. I mean some of them are talentless and they have fake faked it into buying full houses and doing all these things. I wanna do that, how do I do that? I wish. I know. I still haven’t started a TikTok, if I ever did– I believe in you. I’m not running it for you. I draw the line there. I think there’s a singular note in my phone of like one TikTok idea that I had. ‘Cause I was like, if I ever started TikTok, this is gonna be the one that hits. And it’s the one idea for a TikTok that I have written down, and I think it’s probably the dumbest thing ever. And now I wanna pull it up and read it. Yeah, sometimes I’ll be like, “Oh this is gonna hit, this is so funny.” And then I’ll record it and I’m like, “This is cringy” That happens with like everything I do though. Do you feel like over time the relationships have gotten better as you’ve like grown up more? Relationships between my parents? Yeah, your parents, your family. I definitely think so. Part of me just realizes that they’re imperfect people trying to do their best, and I have, you know, I don’t know. There’s things I need to work on. I think when I first moved here like four years ago, I was resentful, and I was like lashing out at them, but I feel like over time, the older I get, the more I’m like, okay, this person might have affected me, my parents might have affected me, but like at the end of the day, you know, I’m also preventing and self sabotaging, I have self sabotaging habits and behaviors that have prevented me from reaching my fullest potential, and I needed to focus in and like work on myself. And for the people, To the haters, like be well, I don’t know. I do have a good relationship with my parents. There is something to be said about like kind of taking a negative situation that like, even if it’s not that negative, even if it’s just not the best situation, but then holding on to resentment from that even though you’re outside of the situation, and letting that prevent you from growing. Like I understand, I get it, there are people that I really wanna be mad at, like people that have screwed you over in life, whatever. And it’s like, I wanna be mad at them, I feel like I have a right to be mad at them and they still haven’t apologized. But then like just hanging onto that sometimes can be so damaging and toxic and it’s like, I don’t know, at the end of the day you just have to like be who you’re gonna be, and if someone has like wronged you in the past or done something, if they’re someone that you’re comfortable with cutting off, then just cut ’em off, if they’re not gonna apologize or acknowledge your mistakes, just let go, and if they’re someone that you don’t want to cut off or if you wanna make it work, but holding onto that resentment is just like so toxic, and I’ve done that so much in the past where it’s like, just eats away at you. Right, and I always like, you know, there’s that statement “Hurt people hurt people.” So it’s like, you know, whenever you encounter those situations you have to consider like, that person wasn’t in a good place, they hurt me, but it’s not like they were in a great successful place, they were hurting bad enough to lash out, and act upon that, you know? I’m perfect, and that’s, I think, what we covered today. So am I. I think we’re all perfect, all three of us in this room. It’s kind of weird. I’ve like never met other perfect people but like. What are the chances. that’s so weird. Jamie wanted me to ask you to give you some, who’s the better singer, and then put some names up against some names. I’m ready for it. And now I’m curious ’cause I wanna know the answers. Let’s get the tea of the tea. All right, number one. Me, no. You are really good though. Chrish versus anyone else. I’m excited. Ariana Grande versus Lady Gaga. Ooh. That one’s hard. I made them all really hard, I’m sorry. I read that and that was hard. I think Arianna Grande, but maybe that’s just a style preference for me ’cause, I’m very impressed by people who can do whistle tones, like extremely impressed. Yeah, that’s unreal. The ranges are very different, but they’re both really impressive. What’s that movie? A Star Is Born, like the fourth version that they made. Lady Gaga was phenomenal. Of which one, Star Wars? A Star Is Born. Oh! She was really good in Star Wars too. I believe she played Boba Fett. I was Jabba the Hutt or whatever. We ate that role, we ate that role. Right, you’re going with Ariana Grande though? Yeah. I think that’s fair. H.E.R. versus Dua Lipa, or is it H E R, how are you technically supp– I say it’s her. I say her, but then there’s also dots. There is, but I think that’s like. I, I would have to say H.E.R. maybe. Okay, I don’t think I’ve listened to enough Dua Lipa or H.E.R. to make a definitive statment. And I wanna agree with that sentiment. Like I’ve heard songs here and there, but I can’t One kiss is all it– You can sing like a line. I don’t think I can be the deciding factor there, sorry. This one is fun, this one it might be my favorite. Miguel versus Usher. Okay, that’s hard. That’s hard. So like, I’m semi obsessed with Usher. I feel like if I’m like, who are my vocal inspirations over the year? He would definitely be like in top three vocal inspirations. Really? Yeah, a hundred percent. His runs are insane, I can’t say no. I think, I don’t know. And he can dance and he’s hot. There is just literally no, There’s nothing that he can’t do. And he made the song Yeah! Like come on. So okay, well now that you’ve mentioned it, what are your other top two vocal inspirations? That’s a good question. I think I’d have to say Beyonce, I really would have to say Beyonce. Like if I had to put like a third spot, like maybe John Legend, kind of Chris Brown. Okay. Like, I don’t know those just off the top of my head. I don’t know if I could pick my vocal inspirations. Do you sing. Occasionally. I’ve been known to. Can you guys harmonize? Yeah, that was nice. That was kind of a vibe. Oh my God, that just made me think of the video of the girl in the car. Do you remember when they did like the Evanessence style of Humble when Ariana Grande did it, on like Kimmel or Fallon. She did a whole bunch of like impersonations right? But then like that viral video of the girl in the car doing the like Ariana Grande impression where she’s like. Yeah. She did that and she thought she ate. Yeah, yeah. That is like my biggest fear, is doing something… It’s the reason I never post videos of me singing, it’s the reason I never post clips from video games, ’cause I’m just worried I’m gonna do something that I think is just– Oh, I delete every Apex clip, I’ll squad wipe and I’m like, and I’m like, I’ll delete it like a couple hours after, I’m like, that wasn’t that impressive. ‘Cause I’m so nervous that I will do something that I think is good and it will go viral on the internet and people will eat me alive for it. Any press is good press though, like any press is– Thank you so much for coming on the show, we’ve been here for a while now and I– I’m sick of it. Here’s the thing, I talk too much. Sometimes, occasionally, I’ve been known to. I put a timer here but he doesn’t– Jamie puts a timer there and I ignore it most of the time. Yeah that’d be me. But no, thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you Trevor. I really appreciate it. It’s been lovely. I would love to talk again sometime, outside of the show. Maybe we go out for some karaoke. First 21 then karaoke. Yeah, first 21. Well we’re gonna go do that on the parking lot right now, so we can go to karaoke after. Tell people where they can find you, what you’re up to. Yeah, I mean I stream, if you wanna follow me on twitch.tv/chrishnow C, H, R, I, S, H, N, O, W. I’m also on TikTok, Chrishoffish. Yeah, everyone please go check out Chrish, all the stuff, Chrishnow on Twitch. Chrish. I think if you Google C H R I S H, your stuff will probably come up. Hope so. So go do that. This has been lovely, thank you so much. Thank you so much, I appreciate it. Hey everybody, that was Chrish. Make sure go check out all of Chrish’s… I can’t help myself. Go check out all of Chrish’s stuff. Yeah, he’s over on Twitch, check out all his socials. He is really funny, I don’t know if you could tell from the last 45 minutes of the show, but he’s a very funny person. And he is really cool, so definitely go check out his stuff. Jamie, what are your thoughts? No, I thought it was very enjoyable. You guys were able to… You got into some like funny stuff, and then you got into some serious stuff. I feel like we did learn a little bit more about him than I didn’t when I was doing my research. He was so much fun, I love that sense of humor. I feel like we definitely have a similar sense of humor in a lot of ways, and he was also someone that like… ‘Cause there are sometimes when people are on the show that like I can’t really match their energy all the time, or it’s not energy that I wanna match. And so it’s like I’ll have like my energy and they have theirs, and it’s just like we’re both kind of there. But this was like, I feel like both of us were just kind of like matching each other, and then going one step further and it just got to this crescendo of us yelling about Fall Guys. Chrish-endo! By God. No, it just got to this like crescendo of us just screaming about Fall Guys, which I thought was really funny, and you know, that’s the ideal conversation that I’ll have with anyone as it gets to a point of us yelling about video games. Yeah, I felt like it would be really cool… Like I wish I had just had a closet in this room full of random stuff I could like pull out, and I could have just pulled out like a punching bag, and you guys both just whale on it, like getting all your Fall Guy energy out. Yeah, I would punch a punching bag right now. I could do it, I don’t punch a lot of things, I don’t know that I’ve ever really punched anything, but I could go for a punch sometimes when I’m playing Fall Guys, let’s just say that much. I could go for a little punch. Everyone, very important. 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